john:
I think something big will happen between 2006-2012, but what will happen after? will man live on?
(12.04.2004, 21:22)
Brian McDonald:
Well go to this website for some of your answers although they may not be completely true =/
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- http://exodus2006.com/3code.htm
(13.04.2004, 14:03)
Nate:
It is pseudoscience such as this that gives all of us real scientists a bad repoire among the average public. Give me facts and statistics based upon real data, not this sensationalist conjecturing.
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- [Nate - consider the consequences, if we only ever listen to "real" scientists, and it was a psuedo-scientist like myself that was right? - Rob]
(19.04.2004, 14:47)
styg:
give me pseudoscience theory over blind scientific dogma anyday....no, in fact give me both to chew....mmmm...tastes like phi....
(21.04.2004, 12:55)
brendan:
The concept of great change approaching is nothing new. Man's inability to predict the future always leaves us uncertain and paranoid. However, I do believe there are too many incidents culminating on this date for it to be merely ignored. Do what we haev always done: prepare.
(11.05.2004, 15:46)
Mahou Sihan:
I am interested in an I ching calendar and in the galactical alignment and how these can fit together with my own research on the secret astrology and astronomy in the moses books.
(12.05.2004, 04:54)
Steven Martin:
Dear Readers. I have used the I'ching on numerous occasions. The last time must have been 3 or more years ago. I asked it a question about aliens, the answer freiked me out, so much so I havent dared ask another question. The book is accurate, there is no doubt, it would be truly amazing, if it served other purposes. Ie. like a calendar, or who knows.
(10.06.2004, 06:12)
JohnD.:
May i ask what was the answer?
(25.06.2004, 04:15)
:
Hi there all, here some story out of the Netherlands.
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- There is one force. There is not nothing, otherwise this was not here. Seccond, this force is a 'thing' between 0 and 1 or - and +
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- But how to go on?
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- The golden rule starts also with 0 and 1, and it seems that this force just 'mirrored' itself in itself. Than you recieve - and -/+ and + This princpiple one can see in moleculoair design and nuclear forces.(ever looked good to the yin yang sign?. there is a 3th force)
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- In the Golden section the 0 and 1 becomes 1,2 and 3 ( 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13 etc.. )
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- 1, 2 and 3 are the key.
- put them in a triangle
- doesn't matter how the numbers are writen
- example:
- 1 2
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- 3
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- Now add the tree points together
- 3
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- 1 2
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- 4 3 5
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- If you add the opposite you recieve 666
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- This is not the number off the Beast but the number of quarks (the smallest partikels in the universe) that can be formed from one energy. The other are represented in the triangle itself. (Iike photons, electrons)
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- And about 2012? Hahaha I'm a dr in molecular cellbiology....and see that human do not understand that we start to recieve in the time that we will going to see effects off our destructive, competitative, male nature of Humanity, Earth, Sun well all matter in this solar system is one. One story and one direction to go to. A earth is a flower.
(28.06.2004, 06:39)
John:
Quote: Soon they will be smarter than us. (in regards to computers) ...Actually a computer for all of its calculative capabilities is outsmarted by your average earthworm...Until there is AI that is... a computer is not smart nor is it stupid. It is a tool to be used at our whim.
(13.07.2004, 14:15)
Jen:
the truth is out there...trust no one
(29.10.2004, 15:10)
Ben:
Note to Rob, consider the consequences, real science is based on potentially falsifiable hypotheses, pseudo science on teh other hand either ignores the facts or tries to be so vague that it cannot be tested. If a pseudo scientist is right, (which hasn't happened yet) it will only be by a lucky guess, since they have no reasons for believing what they do. Styg, referring to logical, scientific reasoning as "blind scientific dogma" is just a way to defend absurd claims from rational dismissal. Dogma goes against everything that science stands for, and there has been a trend recently in our culture to make science into something accepted on faith, to make it look like just another way of looking at the world, no more or less valid that superstitions and outright lunacy. The difference between science and speudoscience is that science allows itself to be corrected and changed as new evidence is gathered whereas this "end of the world 2012" stuff has hung on well after the Mckenna theories have been disproven.
(13.12.2004, 20:16)
Anon:
I think what's going on here is that many people at this site have a poor understanding of what science is, hey don't be embarrassed, most Americans have the same problem. That's why so many communities have anti-evolution disclaimers forced into thier schoolbooks, it's why people are dying because they reject medicine in favor of herbs and crystals. I used to think Terrence McKenna was a genious, I went to considerable lenghts to get a copy of "Invisible Landscape" a few years back when it was out of print, but I've realised, over the years, that his attempts to predict the future are silly, based only on some events that he deems important, events only really important to western culture while ignoring other events, and that it has failed to predict other important events while mistakenly predicting things that never happened.
(13.12.2004, 20:17)
Rob Bast:
Reply to Ben: I totally agree. However, if there is a minute possibility that there could be a global cataclysm in 2012 or later, and to prove this using orthodox scientific means is impossible, should all 6 billion of us sit on our hands and do nothing?
(14.12.2004, 21:02)
twiz:
whatever happens in december of 2012 will probably have something to do with the earth itself, as all the natural disasters lately predict it, maybe another disappearance of a great continent, eg. atlantis, or extinction of the human species (which is possible). Alternatively, maybe the sun will burn out as scientists can be and probably are wrong.
(31.12.2004, 01:49)
Guy:
My mind tries really hard to visualize what kind of "astronomical effects" might appear on decmber the 21st,2012. If I am not mistaken, this was about an alignment of our galactical plane with the celestial equator at the winter soltice sun of that very december 21st. If it is true that the centre of our galaxy contains an enormous supermassive black hole, one might expect an alignment of gravitational forces, causing tidal forces of an unsean size, or maybe solar protuberance bursts reaching our earth's surface... Any one else a try ?
(01.01.2005, 13:22)
Anon:
The 9.0 12/27/04 Tsumani Quake as shifted earth's axis 2.5 CM accroding to NASA's JPL. It happened on a full moon. Mother Earth is a rock hurling through space, Gravitational forces - Lunar Pull - Astropshyical forces beyond our comprehension are at work. Will they cumulate to something on or about 12/21/2012 ? Edgar Cayce and numerous other seers seem to think so.
(10.01.2005, 05:29)
Dick Huybregts:
It is not the earth or the moon that causes problems. It is the sun with the working of the sunspots as well as Venus that will go into conjunction and accelerate the magnetic solar bursts which will collapse the magnetic poles her on earth. "It will look like the stars are falling down to earth" ( Popul Vuh, holy book of the Mayans ).
(15.02.2005, 05:06)
george druey:
i think that this pseudoscience is very interesting and this theory of 2012 astronomical effects has an answer that the human mind is incapable of perceiving.
(18.03.2005, 21:32)
Passerby:
Consider the possibility 2012 = date of biblical Rapture.
(28.06.2005, 00:34)
Jon Jacoby:
12 21 2012 is another date on the calender that will come and go as any other day. The event will only be importent to the handful of sentient humans on this planet. Fortunatly for the rest of us, it only takes four or five of them to keep the earth from being totaly scorched by ionizing radiation when the magnetic field collapses and reverses. We might notice in the weeks following the event that really cool things start to happen with regularity. For example you may wish that people would treat each other with respect and suddenly find your self in a very civilized culture. It's what ever you want to make it, so why not make it into something that everyone would want to buy into like "Wow the world sure has become a nice place to be and I never knew people had such a capacity to believe in the potential of humanity."
(10.09.2005, 05:55)
Anna:
Ben, don't give me that guff. Science holds on to its paradigms harder than anyone else, even the church! Haven't you heard, first it's "superstitious nonsense", 50 years later the same thing is gospel, another 50 years laters it's "primitive folly - we know much better now!" How long have we been saying that? Even scientists don't believe each other unless it fits in with their own theories.
(19.09.2005, 01:14)
cyberpunk:
The theory of singularity is definately nothing to be scoffed at, it is increasingly obvious to me throughout my days of research that it can, and in fact, will happen.
(19.09.2005, 01:34)
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