bash:
interesting but filled with contradictions and pessimism
(15.06.2004, 18:23)
paul foxworth:
apparently there is a spanish scientist talking about the hertz change in the magnetic atmosphere that has changed from 7.5 to 12 hertz and rising. do you want me to translate some of his work? he agrees with polar switch
(23.06.2004, 13:02)
coyote'boy:
what if we get off the planet for a little while???and will the maya return to save us,maybe...
(24.06.2004, 10:38)
Adam:
june 6, 2012, Jupiter will eclipse the sun once again, this time entering from top right as opposed to bottom left, the exact opposite. That means next time we will be upside down, which leads me to believe the star dudes know about this reversal.
(29.06.2004, 06:16)
greslizzz:
http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/
- /geomag/reversals_e.shtml
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- "Reversals have been documented as far back as 330 million years. During that time more than 400 reversals have taken place, one roughly every 700,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is not constant, varying from less than 100,000 years, to tens of millions of years. In recent geological times reversals have been occurring on average once every 200,000 years, but the last reversal occurred 780,000 years ago"
- The above paragraph is in contradiction with your theory:"the magnetic field of the sun undergoes a drastic change every 11,500 to 12,000 years. Once a crucial point has been reached, it reverses instantaneously. Chaotic outbursts accompany this phenomenon and an immense cloud of plasma is catapulted into space. Then a shock wave of particles reaches our planet and the polar reversal of our earth commences."
- I rather "believe" that polar reversal not necessarily occurs every time the magnetic field "disappear" temporarily in earth.
(04.07.2004, 02:18)
chris:
Is there a way to survive?
(04.07.2004, 21:26)
arijit:
there is a way to survive. our soul can survive.
(06.07.2004, 09:27)
CHRIS:
So this pole shift is not caused by a "twin sun" entering our solar system at an ecliptical orbit? The theory is that a planet or whatever acts as a magnet and pushes its energy on our planets causing global warming on them And when to opposite magnets encounter each other, we see what happens. Whats the real story?
(07.07.2004, 22:19)
Jack Dark:
you never explain "how" a catastrophe is caused by the pole's reversals. also, if the poles reverse every 12,000 years and cause a major "catastrophe", how is it that there are millions of creatures on this earth that have been around for millions of years and haven't been wiped out because of it? and, the magnetic north and south poles have already shifted around in YOUR lifetime, and nothing catastrophic has happened because of it. if the north and south poles DID switch instantly and magically... the only thing you'd have to fear is that your toilet would start flushing visa versa.
(08.07.2004, 23:48)
noah:
we must build huge starships (noah's ark, but then in space) to escape!
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- start building now and we may survive!!
(11.07.2004, 13:27)
Dick:
START DIGGIN'!!!!
(11.07.2004, 22:49)
sceptic:
"the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction" - actually it stops and will turn the opposite way? Where is the force to stop the earth? where are Newton rules? Though pole reversal is possibble, the reason will not be changing the planet spin direction..
(12.07.2004, 16:17)
not_an_idiot:
what a load of rubbish - you are a bloody panic causing idiot. if you had any scientific backing to your crap then it would be beleivable. god help people who come across this site. are you responsible enuff for the consequences you rubbish will cause??? bet this doesn't stay on the comments long you wont like criticism will you
- i will be back to check this has been posted!!!
(13.07.2004, 18:17)
An actual astronomer:
As already said. What a bunch of rubbish. Your understanding of physics is laughable. Another in a long line of chicken littles, but you've picked a date far enough out so that you can make some money at it. Please have your excuses ready, for I shall surely call you on it at the right time.
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- And ADAM, you are a nitwit. Jupiter cann NEVER eclipse the sun. It's further out, you fool. You mean Venus. And the reason it crosses the other hemispehere of the Sun is because of Venus's orbital orientation to the ecliptic. It ALWAYS does that, each time there is a series of transit of Venus. If you understood a small amount of celestial mechanics, you wouldn't appear so stupid. Then again, that's who patrick hopes to bilk.
(14.07.2004, 07:26)
paul:
perhaps you sould attempt to understand the difference between spin axis poles and magnetic poles.
(14.07.2004, 21:00)
J.P.:
Read the New York times article from 7/13/04,
- the headline is "Will Compasses Point South?".
- Dr. John A. Tarduno, a professor of geophysics at the Univeristy of Rochester, suggests that a reversal of the Earth's magnetic field may be overdue.
(14.07.2004, 21:21)
Alex:
Overdue, true. And magnetic field is now very, very rapidly decreasing. This really points toward an imminent pole shift. The small detail is that it will take about two thousand years, and that is only if it goes really fast. Also, the magnetic field reversal is not something devastating.
(14.07.2004, 21:37)
LunarLander:
Im not a geo-phisicist and I don't promote violence, but that sounds like the biggest load of crap I've ever heard and you need to be slapped. DOOMSAYER! Sounds to me like your on one hell of an acid trip. Come down and read what you wrote. We are all expecting an appology.
(15.07.2004, 04:31)
somebody:
It will be very devastating because we rely heavily on electronics and electricity and none of that will work once the pole shifts because all our power runs N-S. So when the change comes NOTHING will work, even our cars wont start.
(15.07.2004, 13:30)
Atrus:
The tone of this article destroys any credibility it could have. If you want people to take you even half-seriously, you don't keep saying "I cracked the code"- and "terrible things will happen"-type of stuff repeatedly.
(16.07.2004, 02:42)
Dr.Jones:
We are trying to stop it.
(16.07.2004, 04:02)
Hess:
Come on, give the guy a break. Why are there so many really negative/ mean spirited comments posted here? I really appreciate differing scientific views. If you don't like something, then smile and move on to something else. As many mothers teach, "If you don't have something nice to say, then say nothing at all."
(17.07.2004, 19:51)
MorganAshley:
I only got to the part about the magnetic pole flip and I want to call attention to the phrase "clock-like regularity". These flips occur as often as 20,000 years to 5 million years. Hardly a steady calender... Besides, it takes 10,000 years for the process to complete so chances are, things aren't going to get freaky in our life times even if one were taking place.
(20.07.2004, 23:42)
MorganAshley:
oops my bad, the longest interval is 50 million years, not 5. oops
(20.07.2004, 23:45)
Tony:
A geoligist stood before a wall of ancient lava, directly before him at chest level a piece of lava the size of a golf ball juted out toward him, he took his marking pen and compass out, marked which direction north was on the end of this piece of lava, pulled his geoligists hammer from it's holster and broke the end of the lava off, took it back to the lab and discovered that,long ago when this lava cooled and formed solid rock north then was not the same as north now. This geoligist went out and collected more lava samples from different geological times and discovered how long between magnetic pole flips, he also discovered that on average it takes 100 years approximatly for the flip to take place, first the Magnetic poles develop a wobble which increses in size and intensity until the poles take on each others position, then they wobble again and flip back to there original position then wobble and flip back again, and I repeat, during approximaty 100 years -wobble-flip-wobble-flip. It's all recorded in the rocks. It is my personal opinion, that whilst the Van Allen belts are in dissaray, the radiation bombarding the planet has in the past been the stiring spoon for the development of new live forms that have appeared throught our geological history. Most mutatated forms of life do not survive, occasionaly, very occasionaly, a mutation improves the form of lifes chances of survival.
(21.07.2004, 08:35)
Tony:
PS the earths battery is a geodynamo (dynamo like on a bicycle wheel), the core is mostly molten iron, moving like the sky and the sea, different directions and speeds at different hights/depths, all this iron moving around is just like that bicycle dynomo - an electricity maker = magnetic field = van allen belt =
(21.07.2004, 08:35)
Tony:
I would like to opoligise to all, as in my post 21.07.2004. 09:35 I indicated that it goes wobble flip wobble flip, well in my hast in typing that post I indicated that the earth flips twice, well, it doesn't, it flips three (3) times during the cycle. I hope this does not cause any to much confusion. Tony
(21.07.2004, 08:42)
Martin La Grange:
Dear Sir,
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- I have nothing but real pity for you - and a sneaking suspicion that you probably started this website as prank of some sort (with the opportunity to test the Barnum supposition - 'there's one born every minute!') - while netting a little cas from the fruitbowl of nutcakes that is the good ol' US of A.
- All the same - please don't go further than this website, I fear very much that you will be doing yourself a disservice. Plus you are not the only doom-monger - History is littered with them. I have enjoyed seeing books in bookshops promoting doom in 1995 - for a polar shift- and reading their spines with much humour in balmy 2004 summer days.
- I beg you - please don't proceed with this - such things can be very damaging to a person's character in the long term.
- As always, hoping you will return to good sense in time, or perhaps chuckle at my well meant advice sure in the knowledge that at least I gave a damn.
- Martin.
- P.S. Cutting to the chase - your theory is hogwash all the way, and I think you know this.
(22.07.2004, 04:29)
Eddie Thomas:
In response to Martin La Grange; he should adjust himself and come to the grip that a polar shift has already begun. I must add that in the near future, no catastrophic events will take place other than the current anomolies with thousands of birds dissappearing and the loss of thousands of racing pidgeons in Sweden. In summary, facts are strickly in place that records a 10 to 15 percent reduction in polar magnetospheric normality. We in the USA have "lost" an entire species of white pelicans in Idaho. Sweden lost many of their racing pidgeons, northern California has lost their decades-old pilgramage of brown pelicans. Here in South Carolina, our Cattle Egrets are flying dissoriented patterns (East to West) instead of North to South during their daily feeding. It does not take Rocket Science to realize that something is amock.
(23.07.2004, 23:38)
Stabby:
DON'T BELEAVE! A polar shift doesn't mean the end for all, it's happened before and the animals then didn't die. Doomsday polar shifts come out of science fiction not fact so i have no idea of where you got this polar shift doomsday idea from.
(25.07.2004, 11:51)
alex:
what a load of crap. I've just startd my gcse course and even with my non-existent knowledge of geophysics and whatnot i cud tell it was rubbish. goodbye,i'm going to eat my dinner. alex, northampton
(26.07.2004, 11:59)
Steven:
Every sceptic of this article/book must understand that a polar shift WILL!!!! take place!!! There is no denying it, as well it is not nessisarily the fact that we will be killed by radiation but rather the fact that we rely on electricity. When the polar shift takes place we will be totaly devistated as we realize that all our power has been reversed. Can you imagine what that would do!!! I dont care if it happens at 2012 by all means it can happen at 4051! The point is, it will happen, evidence has been shown and to deny the facts is idiocy. Plz take my insight seriously, denying the truth is something that really pisses me off in people
(26.07.2004, 17:05)
Steven:
Septic, you must understand that this is not a joke, well, what that guy wrote up there might be a little exacterated but(a lot, no one is perfect)but think about it even if the polar switch doesnt happen at december 21st, 2012 it will happen and although it wont cause a catastrophy to other non electricity relying organisms we will be screwed if we are not fryed by the "possiblity" of a 'radiation leak'. Im not saying there will be one of the above, but it is possible, things are not always the same. Take food for example, even if you use the exact same ingrediants to make a pie it wont always taste exactly the same. Now enough with that point. Just realize that if a polar switch takes place while we are still dependant on our means of generating electricity, we will go from tv dinners to catching rabbits out in the feilds. The reason it didint do much to us last time is we had no electricity. In fact we were hardly aware that it even took place!! But with our relyance on electricty a polar flip, in my opinion, looks prety grim to me.
(26.07.2004, 17:14)
mike s:
I am impressed by the shear brain power of the people against this theory. But the truth is the scientific community has always been a very closed minded and in love with their own ego's. I for one do not personally believe that the technology exists to determine when and if the poles will ever shift. If you read between the lines you will notice the people nipping away at this article are seriously scared of being wrong. It seems that the huge advancements in human knowledge in the past 200 years have been forgotten. Science is finding things like black holes and dark matter, we have mapped the human gene and we have stepped on the surface of the moon... We do things everyday, that just talking about a few years back would have gotten you thrown into a padded room. We may indeed soon stand on the shoulders of giants and be able to predict earthquakes, tornados, or pole shifts. But main stream science must throw down the blanket of fear and step up. A wise man once told me that I have absolutely no chance of ever winning the lottery... unless I buy a lottery ticket. So in closing I feel that the "EDUCATED PEOPLE" trashing this article should re-examine the evidence again. Maybe you will come to the same conclusion or maybe not. But please approach this theory and life with an open mind. Horses wear blinders, people should have their eyes wide open. And on a survivalist kick......... Would it hurt any of us to buy a few more can goods and shotgun shells? lol.
(28.07.2004, 04:03)
Chad:
Okay I see so many differing views that i need to through mine out there. Some of your people need to except the fact that the pole reversal has already started because it has. I'm not trying claim i'm right or wrong its just a fact. Just like wheather you like it or not we live on earth and we travel around our sun or suns in our solar system.
- I don't know exactly what is happening but i'll tell you all what i do know. I know that the sun has to do with all of this. The cycle that its in is not normal or not what we have seen however that doesn't necessarily make it not normal. Everyone says global warming this and global warming thats there excuse for the poles melting and crazy weather. But there wrong i'm sure there is some effect of it but not big enough to do what they claim. I've found the sun to be the source of it all, all of the change the planet is going through. Its all related. The sun is the start of it. The sun right now is in what the scientists call a mega cycle. And instead of being nice and calm its burning fierce and hot and producing an extreme amount of sun spots. Now those sun spots produce solar flares. The solar flares are basically bursts of extreme radioactive energy. Luckly we have the earths magnetic shield to protects us from all that radiation right. Well with all these solar flares coming at us our magnetic shield is taking a beating. It is being altered by them.
(28.07.2004, 10:36)
Chad:
Some people say the earths magnetic field has been decrease and some say its been increase. But as it stands the magnetic field is not as strong as it was 100 years ago. All though right now some people say its rising. Right now the earths magnetic field is being rearranged by the solar activity. and since the magnetic field isn't as strong as it used to be 100 or 500 years ago. The solar flares can now break through the atmosphere alot easier that why people have been seeing Auroras in odd places and thats also why the poles are melting. With the poles already having very weak geomagnetic protection solar flares can rip right through and melt it all. Its like this if we didn't have the Earths magnetic field around us these solar flares would make earth look like mars in an extremely short amount of time and i do mean an extremely short amount. Now with all this fresh water thinning out the salt water oceans Jet streams will be changing.
(28.07.2004, 10:40)
Chad:
I mean come on people didn't any of you pay attention in science class back in high school. Granite i never payed attention in english. ahhh but yeah common sense will tell you that salt water is denser then fresh water. Density affects the movement of water, you know for tides as well as what floats and what doesn't ya know that kind of stuff. That density is also the 1 main thing that keeps the gulf stream in motion. But with the earth being hit by constant solar storms the poles are melting at a ridiculous rate. Way faster then most of the scientists would have ever thought possible. so now the oceans are being thinned out with fresh water. Making the jet stream cycle slower and changing the path of it. If they keep melting the jet streams will stop. With the jet streams stopped the earth will enter an ice age again or heat age i guess depending on everyones location. This will all happen within 2 to 5 years. Shocking huh... Not to me but maybe some people.
(28.07.2004, 10:41)
Chad:
Sorry i know this is for the pole reversal but i just see them all as 1 thing. I also see the world now, everyone fighting with each other over petty difference that don't even matter. Like who has more land or who has the bigger bank account or who controls more people. So much stupid stuff. I'm mean fuck i live in USA and i don't have the slightest clue why we have troops over in iraq still other then to pretend to feel bad and pretend to help them get there own democratic system set up. haha yeah please help met set up a system so you can control me right... So pathetic Anyway some people running our country are greedy and selfish. But what can you do right. Soon though people won't be fighting over that petty shit of land, oil and money. They will be fighting over food and blankets. Remember that saying only the strong survive?? Well what the point in being strong and alone??? The ones who don't learn will die the ones who learn to share will survive.
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- If anyone wants to have a chat sometime drop me a line at nimbusboy01@hotmail.com
- And Just so you all know i'm just a computer programmer that likes to read i'm not scientist or anything. I just want the facts and will admit when i'm wrong.
(28.07.2004, 10:42)
Rochelle in Atlanta:
I have heard of an old Indian visionary woman who more or less hinted of the same things happening and a lot worse. It does not matter what anyone thinks (intellectual or otherwise) about this subject, wait and see. I believe that the pole reversal is going to happen. I found this very interesting, but this not the first time I have heard of it.
(31.07.2004, 02:46)
A Engineer:
Somebody and the Rest:
- I am a trained electrical engineer. I design electrical and electronic systems for a living, and I can tell you that even IF a pole switch happened tomorrow most if not all of your electrical equipment will still work. The only danger to electrical equipment would be if the field flipped very rapidly (Say over a couple of hours), such a flip would cause some induction damage, but the power grid is designed to protect from induced currents. Generators, electric motors, power transformers, and power lines work the same regardless of the environmental magnetic fields.
(02.08.2004, 10:55)
The Watcher:
Another thing to add about the polar shifts. I heard that the convection currents inside earth (the force behind plate tectonics inside the mantle) will also be affected. Won't they have to stop, and then reverse the direction they are spinning. One more thought--I think that skeptics and unbelievers should keep their nasty comments to themselves. At least the guy has the courage to publish his ideas. If you think that this is so stupid and "lacks credibility" what the hell are you doing looking at a website about how things may change in the near future.
(21.08.2004, 21:11)
The Watcher:
I just remembered something I read a while ago (I can't remember where though)! So many mammoths have been found frozen, standing up, like they were in the middle of eating and just froze. This might indicate that the polar shift happened very quickly, freezing the animals before they even realized what happened. Sorry if this idea was already covered in the web page, I haven't read through it all yet.
(21.08.2004, 22:00)
Steven Lagavulin:
Here's a quote and further reference I ran across recently in the excellent and well-researched "Revolt Against the Modern World" by Julius Evola (p189):
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- "We know that owing to an astrophysical cause, that is, to the tilting of the terrestrial axis, in every era there has been a change in climate. [...] When Lieh-tzu described the myth of the giant Kung-Kung who shatters the "column of heaven," he was probably referring to such an event. In this Chinese tradition we also find other concrete references, such as the following one, though it is mixed together with details that describe later cataclysms:
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- 'The pillars of heaven were shattered. The earth shook at its foundations. The northern skies descended lower and lower. The sun, the moon and the stars changed their course [their course appeared changed as a result of the tilting of the terrestrial axis]. The earth's surface cracked and the waters contained in its belly gushed forward and inundated various countries. Man was in a state of rebellion against Heaven and the universe fell victim to chaos. The sun darkened. The planets changed their course [because of the abovementioned shift in perspective] and the great harmony of heaven was destroyed.'"
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- Evola gives no reference to the text of Lieh-tzu quoted above. I enjoy your site :-)
(24.08.2004, 12:28)
-)+(- 2011__:
www.ancientgr.com - - the hidden and unknown hellenic=greek history
(24.08.2004, 13:47)
Blinded by Lies:
(06.09.2004, 03:15)
Blinded by Lies:
(06.09.2004, 03:15)
JB:
Scientists haven't come up with a definitive theory concerning the Earths magnetic field. I wonder now if it is BECAUSE of the rotation reversal issue. Back in HS Physics class, I seem to remember something called the "right hand rule", where current flow and magnetic field are tied together. Perhaps Earth scientists remember this rule too, and can't come up with a theory which DOESN'T invole rotation shift. (Current flow in this case being around the core)
(07.09.2004, 14:46)
JB:
By the way, roataion reversal DOESN'T require the Earth to stop rotation, and then restart!!! But, the view of the North star will end up in the "Southern" hemisphere.
(09.09.2004, 19:14)
questions:
Some people are anticipating an unfathomable amount of disaster ensuing in various plate shifts, and electromagnetically charged particles disrupting layers of the atmosphere literally wreaking total chaos. Some people believe that this also would mark the pinnacle of ugliness and hate in the world, crescendoing with worldwide violence and terror of mankind killing himself as well as odd (global warming, sun flares, whatever it is) tendencies of nature to flare up in crazy temperature fluxuations, gigantic storms and unlimited other happenings. Some believe that after 2012, it would mark the new era, that those who survive would finally be able to start over, living in an enlightened state of consciousness as to the nature of such a culmination of these horrible events. As to whether or not the Mayans and the Ancient Egyptians are right, I believe that they probably are. Time will tell, but there is much ancient knowledge that we cannot begin to fathom, and the fact that they were even able to pinpoint this exact date by starmapping thousands of years ago, in our present time when we can noticeable watch the so-called "battery of the earth" lose its charge and all of these global abnormalities ensue, seems to me to be a little more than a coincidence. Either way time truly will tell, and I think the world should spend more time looking into such possibilities. To brace ourselves just in case it all happens in an instance.
(10.09.2004, 16:13)
Ross L:
Part 1:
- A ferromagnetic object can be made into a permanent magnet by wrapping a wire around it and passing a current through the wire. The strength of the magnetization may be modified by changing the amount of current through the wire. The magnetization may be reversed by reversing the current through the wire. The object does not have to be physically turned over to have its magnetic poles reversed. Factors that will govern the strength of magnetization are the permeability of the object and the current through the wire. After the object is magnetized, it has factors called retentivity and coercivity that govern its magnetic properties.
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- I contest the assumption made that the Earth's rotation must be stopped and started turning the other way in order to reverse the magnetic field. What is missing from the above article is a calculation of the energy required to stop the Earth's rotation and start it back up the other way. That energy would be an enormous amount.
(22.09.2004, 13:06)
Ross L:
Part 2:
- I propose a more simple explanation and I will also make an educated but unsupported guess that the more simple explanation would require far less energy to reverse the magnetization of the Earth than the above article proposes.
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- First, the magnetizing current does come from the sun, but does not travel through the Earth's core. The current in the solar wind plasma travels around the Earth in the atmosphere or magnetosphere. This magnetizes the object, the Earth, inside of the circular current flow. This current from the sun controls the magnetization of the Earth.
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- All it takes is a reversal of direction of that current to reverse the magnetization. This can happen without the stopping of the Earth or the involvement of any catastrophic earthquakes or dramaticlightning bolts. Sorry to spoil the party, but the doom and gloom is getting thick in here. The Earth could still spin and the north pole could still point a Polaris while a compass points to the south.
(22.09.2004, 13:07)
David:
The sheer reality of the Mayan's supremely accurate mathematics having a finite endpoint, to me indicates substance and weight to the 2012 proposition. However if these polar shifts occur every 11,000-15,000 years (rough guess), and we understand that life has been evolving for what 4.5 billion years? let alone homio sapiens being present and relatively unchanged for over 50,000 years; I don't quite see where the major cataclysmic, apocolyptic destruction fits in. Sure there may be significant changes to life on earth, even civilization collapse, but these are regular events and yet just another twist and turn in the double helix of existence. We shall continue our presence on this planet, we are at a time of metamorphosis, significant change and development.
- It is time for the Children of the light to rise.
- Peace......
(26.09.2004, 06:33)
Orion Hale:
There are 2 timelines converging on the 2012 date.Time travel created this paradox.It could lead to a cataclysm.Our descendants are here to try to mend time breach-they are the greys and blondes.Humanity evolved after a future cataclysm and branched into various races.These races in turn invented time travel far in the future.They are here to mend the breach in time and space but it could go either way.
(27.09.2004, 17:30)
Paul Combs:
Yes, the earth will stop rotating. It is prophesized in the Bible: Ecclesiasticus 43:13
- (Most bibles will not have this, only the complete ones)
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- He made the moon also to serve in its turn,
- a perpetual sign to mark the divisions of time.
- From the moon, feast days are reckoned;
- it is a light that wanes as it completes its course.
- The moon gives its name to the month;
- it waxes marvellously as its phases change,
- a beacon to the armies of the heaven,
- shining in the vault of the sky.
- The stars in their brilliance adorn the heavens,
- a glittering array in the heights of the Lard.
- At the Holy One's command each stands in its place,
- never defaulting at its post.
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- This could only be explained by the rotation of the earth stopping. The stars will not "default from thier post" and The moon will act as a "beacon to the armies of heaven", in my opinion as a beacon to follow, or as a signal or sign.
(28.09.2004, 16:16)
Paul Combs:
The "destroyer" is describes as follows in Ecclesiiasticus 43:thru 5....
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- The sun comes into view proclaiming as it rises
- how marvellous it is, the handiwork of the Most High.
- At noon it parches the earth,
- and no one can endure its blazing heat.
- The stoker of a furnace works in the heat,
- but three times as hot is the hill-scorching sun.
- It breathes out fiery vapours;
- the glare of its rays blinds the eyes.
- Great is the Lord, its Creator,
- whose word speeds it on its course.
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- The vapours will in my opinion kill all life in the valleys. I support this notion with the following verse: Isiah 33:21
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- There we have the Lord in all his majesty
- in a place of rivers and reoad streams;
- but no galleys will be rowed there,
- no stately ships sail by.
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- This refers to the oceans of vapors or lava, I believe.
(28.09.2004, 16:17)
Paul Combs:
And the only safe place to wait it out will be in a cave on a high mountain. Isiah 30:23-26
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- 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy cattle feed in large pastures.
- 24 The oxen likewise and the young asses that ear the ground shall eat clean provender, which hath been winnowed with the shovel and with the fan.
- 25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall.
- 26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
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- Water will be a problem because it will mostly be frozen. But the water will be guaranteed on every high mountain and hill. Also, reference is made to the sun and the moon shining brighter than norman, a lot brighter.
(28.09.2004, 16:19)
Paul Combs:
Now another verse to support the idea that one should be in a cave upon a high mountain:
- Isiah 33:12-17
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- 12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.
- 13 Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.
- 14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
- 15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
- 16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.
(28.09.2004, 16:21)
Paul Combs:
What will it feel like to us when the earth stops rotating? Gravity will appear to be greater, because the centrifigal (sp.?) force caused by the earth's rotation will be missing and will not counteract gravity. So we will feel to total effect of gravity, and will feel heavier. This may be what will cause the volcanic activity, as the miles of rock above molten magma will cause increased pressure on the liquid, causing it to fissure out to the surface.
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- On the date of 2012: Peakoil.com predicts this is the year that the infrastructure goes to pot, due to not having oil for transportation and power generation. The Myan calendar ends abruptly in 2012. Any my personal tidbit to add to this: I have a vision come to me one evening while praying, and after reading several sections from the Bible and putting them all together, went to the Father in prayer and asked when the second coming would be. Immediately I saw a calendar, withe the date of November 7 or 13, 2013. I am going to research the second coming, and see how this would fit in with the events which are going to happen in 2012.
- Take care and God bless!
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- Paul Combs
(28.09.2004, 16:24)
Ramesh Appadurai:
The shift will happen when the earth passes thro the galactic plane.The shift will be upside down.It means the earth will rotate clockwise or anticlockwise and not by reversing the direction of rotation.
- Imagine the galactic plane is having a polarity of positive,when the earth passes it will turn like the compass neddle tilted towards its opposite pole.
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- As per nostradomas the shift will take a time of 6-9hrs.The central part of the earth will have a greater chance of survivial
- Read this http://www.faqs.org/faqs/nostradamus/part7/
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- My findings are,wherever the concept of religion evolved having a great chance of survival.
- Places located with pyramids ,temples are having more chances of survival.
- Prophet mohammed given very much importance to the place gabba in saudi arabia.This is because that place will survive during this catastrophe.
- In india one place called kumbakonam in tamil nadu is beleived to be survived after such catastrophe.
- Konam means angle in tamil.Its in a particular angle from the earth north pole.
- Read the following research ,
- http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/AlisonJ1-p1.htm
- The researcher amused by the construction accuracy of various temple,pyramids around the world from the earth north pole.He does't know the reason.But for me thease are all indicating the humanity having a geart chance of survial if you live in this places.
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- Ramesh Appadurai
(18.10.2004, 08:37)
Mike B.:
Nostradamus was wrong before, he'll be wrong again....
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- As fars as end of the earth.....Scientists on the discovery channel claim the shift has already started and will probably continue for thousands of years as evidence by "spots" in the northern hemisphere that already have opposite magnetic polarity even now in 2004.....Their mathematical model predicted a change every two hundered thousand years or so. And they didn't predict the world would end, merely that we'd have to adjust our maps....Relax, I think your still more likely to die in a car crash.
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- For Mr. Geryl - What other prophetic claims have you made if any and how many came true?
(18.10.2004, 12:43)
Cyana:
Cool down, the pole shift will not cause a reversion of the Earth's rotation. It also will not happen at 2012. The last one happened about 800,000 years ago, and the next one is not expected within the next 1500 years.
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- The direction of the Erath rotation will not be affected. It did not change since the Earth exists, even the impact with a planet about the size of Mars, that was the origin of our Moon, could influence the direction of the Earth rotation. All higher life forms have a biological 25 hour cycle, that normally is triggered by the daylight, however starts when the individual is seperated from this input. This shows that in the early ages of Earth, the rotation took 25 hours to complete, so actually the Earth rotation is accelerating as in opposite to the opinion expressed above
(19.10.2004, 17:58)
so osm:
I belive that the earth will reverse its direction, however, I think what you siad regarding the time is BS .. and time will prove it to those of us who are still alive in the 2012
(30.10.2004, 08:25)
Ray:
The Mayan Date of the 21st of December 2012, which will the 22nd to other places in the world, has some significant number factors.
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- If you look up the bible chapter and verse in the final book of Revelation, according to the day as chapter and month as verse, which is Revelation 22:12, it is a quote of the second coming.
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- There are other factors in prophecies which have a final 7 years period (based on 360 day prophetic years), divided into two equal parts of 42 months. As the MAYAN date lines up, so too do these calcs.
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- http://id-chip.4t.com/m1/calcdates.htm
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- But lets not let religion get in the way of truth. Lets treat each other well, and heed the warnings of what is to come.
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- PEace
(09.11.2004, 10:56)
ananomous:
You guys are all a bunch of wierdos. Do you really think that the earth will start spinning around in the other direction as a result of a pole reversal in 2012 as suggested at the top of this web page? I have read the vague guidelines and that prompts me to give a legitimate objection and so it is just this....
- The strenght of the earths magnetic field must reach zero before it can "flip" and it has only dropped by 10% since its strength in level in 1850 and it is presumed that it is presumed that this flip event (if it does actually occur) will atleast take 2000 years to occur which is a long time....it kind of means the world wont end in 2012 as you anticipate...I think it should also be mentioned that the forces recquired to make the earth rotate the other way are enormous.
- The direction of the magnetic north has infact very negligible impact on the direction of the earths rotation.
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- there I said it.
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- In light of these informations which I think you could easily figure out for yourself I think you should actually decide against selling this book ,..becuase now that you know the truth its immoral to lie to say many people about such garbage.
(21.11.2004, 15:57)
Realistic Member of Earth:
Dear anonymous
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- I do not think they where talking about rotation but Tilt of the rotation, think of it this way, you spin a gyro, it slows down in a slow spin and starts to wobble until it falls, that wobble is a type of pole spin that the earth is doing, if it moves to a certain degree it will through it in to a gravity game of lets play speed up, when it stops it will spin the globe in reveres magnetic pole. North will be south and South will be north. This is not a good thing, it could cause the Oceans to drop in temp and also could cause many other problems to start.
- My .02 cents
- PSS. it will take 1,000 to 28,000 years for something like this to happen.
- It is time for this to start.
(30.11.2004, 22:26)
Dawn Darling:
Since even scientists can't predict how and when the poles are going to shift next, how do you propose to do this, accurately? What is your scientific basis for your theory?
(03.12.2004, 21:25)
AV Subbarao:
Enough doomsday predictions! But Kaliyuga acc to Hindu mythology has just entered the first phase; there are >10000 years for the next three phases at the end of which, a Maha pralaya is predicted. And the cycle repeats!
(05.12.2004, 09:29)
kuri:
If you're so sure the end of the world will happen, why is there a "?" at the end of the sub-title??????
(22.12.2004, 04:52)
Anonymous:
Is it just me or does the simple fact that the earth's magnetic field is caused by the spinning of a liquid metal core at the center of earth escape everyone here. And the pole shift has been documented and may cause radioactive damage to life, but the most severe consequence of this is the ability to see the Aurora sky storms dancing at all parts of the globe.
(13.01.2005, 18:20)
JonC:
Polar flips have happened before and will happen again, this much is documented and provable.
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- Anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of physics will see that this will have no effect whatsoever on electrical / electronic equipment, electricity does not 'run north to south' if I take my CD player (driven by a small electric motor) to Australia does it stop working?
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- The only things that will be affected by a polar switch are comapsses and birds.
(18.01.2005, 04:15)
London man:
Pole reversals, ecliptical twins suns entering our solar orbits, solar lighning/storms???
- "For this reason one sees the force of the magnetic field diminishing, almost 60% over the last two thousand years" <How the hell do you know this?>
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- Where is your evidence to support all these claims? Yes the ancient Egyptians and Maya people knew alot of fantastic things - all due respect etc, but quite frankly alot of it was bull and fantasy.
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- I think your just a scare mongerer or someone who wants to make money by selling publications. There's alot of idiots out there who actually spend money on these type of books, so I think you'll do well.
(21.01.2005, 18:27)
Anon:
I'm anon so Bobby will just delete this, but thanks for the above, London Man---I agree. I don't think Bobby even believes this crap but running this website gives him something to do until he finds a real job. [from Rob Bast - hmmm, actually I am so busy with a real job, finishing the book is difficult]
(23.01.2005, 01:57)
mrjpyotee:
Ok there is absolute proof in the aluvial fan sedementary deposits of the major rivers of the world that there have been polarity reversals of the earth on a fairly regular time period of about 25000 years. Most calculations based on these deposits suggest that this ill happen again in the next 1000 years. There is also a theory that the coming of this event will be preceded by a gemetric increase in the incedence of earth quakes andvolcanic erruptions. So it is quite simple these have been increasing rather dramatically in the last decade and therefore peerhaps we are approaching a reversal, but then again we have less than 100 years of data to compare this with so we really have no idea what is normal regarding this. Also to those of you interested in surviving for sure the one place certain to be safe is the dark side of the moon. Ths side never faces the sun and therefore anyone who is capable of existingthere will be assured of survival. You may be interested in a book reality revealed: the theory of multidimensional reality by douglas vogt .
(27.01.2005, 20:07)
Selman:
i dnt know why u some ppl just reject the idea in such an ignorant way, specially London man. The calculation of magnetic field decreasing 60% was made by scientists. Why dnt you seach yahoo and and look at proper science web sites to prove it? rather than displaying ur ignorance and blaming the guy that he just wants to make money! DNT WE ALL!!! pisses me off when i see guys like you, but i realise, after noticing u, even god has a sense of humour!
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- Even if this is based all just to make money. There are many SCIENTIFIC facts that lead to all this. Search for youreself online. You'll know im not bullshiting.
(05.02.2005, 14:47)
Taking one day at a time:
The world will not come to an end! Life as we know it will come to an end! There are predictions about floods, earthquakes, a new ice age, volcanoes erupting, etc. There is no safe place! I think the real issue is after everything has happened! You either have nothing or you're dead! If anyone survives, martial law will be declared because there will be no organization! I don't believe the dates of the events are necessary, there's no way of preparing for those kind of events. Just hope to survive!
(09.02.2005, 19:32)
Niels:
Suppose the physical tilt of the Earth is due to the same mechanisms cause us to have our car wheels balanced regularly. Let's say that too heavy build up of ice on Greenland will cause an imbalance. Logically this would lead to a tilt. But climate changes may harness such a process. If fine predictions didn't take climate changes into consideration, they are obsolete.
(19.02.2005, 03:11)
Duncan:
to the moron above that suggested that survival may be possible on " The dark side of the moon" THERE IS NO DARK SIDE OF THE MOON!!! One side of the moon constantly faces the EARTH.....not the SUN.....all parts of the moon are exposed to the sun on a regular basis, as it rotates around the earth.
(28.02.2005, 10:02)
Austin:
In My opinion we need to prepare for the worst.
- I don't know much on the topic but i know that if we are to stand any chance of survival, even if only for a few months, we need to stop
- disscusions and start preparation. I propose a massive underground bunkers.
- Those of us who do not want to take the chance of waitiing until Dec 21 2012 to find out what's going to happen should come together to
- start preparations for this event. There will be a need for people from all walks of life mostly doctors, scientists', engineers, bioligists'. Maybe we need to start brainstorming for ideas like other inhabitable
- planets within our system, Mars for example. Other topics would entail the means of traveling to other planets and also getting the US goverment to divulge the secret projects that they are working on with regards
- to castostrophic events such as pole shifts.
- who Knows what they know, I mean they can't be completely oblivious the significance of the year 2012. I would definately like to get some
- feed back on the things that i have spoken about here, it would be interesting to say the least to hear what others have to say. redbull079@hotmail.com
(03.03.2005, 07:27)
Vito Paolo:
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Vito Quattrocchi:
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Vito Quattrocchi:
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Vito Paolo:
What would happen were the Earth to stop rotating? Everything on the Earth would be destroyed under the stress of such an enormous force. What the hell is going on here guys? Aliens, time travel, what is all this? I'm not sure where you think the staggering amount of energy that it would require to stop and re-start the Earth's rotation would come from because I personally can't think of where. Unless we're not talking about a polarity shift anymore and we're talking about some huge meteorite hitting the Earth like 65 million years ago with the dinosaurs, this amount of energy isn't just going to come out of nowhere. I also agree with Ross L. you don't need to physically turn a magnetized object over in order to switch its (and here's the big word) MAGNETIC POLES. Has anybody ever heard that the North Pole and what's called "true north" are not the same thing? That's because actual north is changed with Earth's changing axial tilt. The magnetic pole where your compass with point to is a totally different thing. The world won't end, unless by ending you mean your compass will point to what used to be south.
(14.03.2005, 11:27)
A Ekland:
THink about it, how do you really think the Earth's Mountains were formed? The force of a switch in rotation seems plausible to me...
(18.03.2005, 22:08)
Geophysics Student:
Is this a joke?
- Having just written a paper on when the next reversal will take place, I cannot actually believe this is serious.
- Do you think he has written this because he knows people like me will want to buy it, just for a good laugh?
(21.03.2005, 15:49)
BK:
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Anon:
BK, you're nuts. Take your meds.
(26.03.2005, 01:40)
Josh:
All these people need to think about this. The world isnt just going to stop spinning and if it does were screwed. Theres no way we could survive on earth. If we were hoping for survival we need to get some kind of space city that we could grow our food and be able to travel the universe and still survive. If we were somehow able to avoid all the black holes. And staying away from planets. We could live. Another problem we would need to think about is how are we going to keep the oxygen in the space city and how are we going get heat. Also we are going to need something to fuel all this. We need something that we can grow in a short time in the space city. There are many other problems we would have to face but it could work.
(04.04.2005, 18:52)
Anon:
In one of the alein abuductions claims. The person says that the aliens claimed that there was an advanced civilization on this earth about 30,000 years ago. They also mentioned this pole reversal and that there also was a nuclear war. So what they did is they built a "space city" (as i talked about before) and that there civilzation had been traveling the universe. Another thing is that there are already extresstal life on mars. The aleins are only allowed to come to this planet every 2 years.
(04.04.2005, 18:56)
NASA:
NASA Claims Polar Shift Due In 2012
- Solar System - Did you notice? In February 2001, the Sun did a magnetic polar shift. The next one is due again in 2012. NASA scientists who monitor the Sun say that our star's awesome magnetic field flipped 22 months ago, signaling the arrival of a solar maximum. But it wasn't so obvious to the average human.
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- The Sun's magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It's a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one. "This always happens around the time of solar maximum," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it's a good indication that Solar Max is really here."
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- The Sun's magnetic poles will remain as they are now, with the north magnetic pole pointing through the Sun's southern hemisphere, until the year 2012 when they will reverse again. This transition happens, as far as we know, at the peak of every 11-year sunspot cycle -- like clockwork.
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NASA:
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NASA:
continued: When solar maximum arrives and sunspots pepper the face of the Sun, our star's magnetic field begins to change. Sunspots are places where intense magnetic loops -- hundreds of times stronger than the ambient dipole field -- poke through the photosphere.
- "Meridional flows on the Sun's surface carry magnetic fields from mid-latitude sunspots to the Sun's poles," explains Hathaway. "The poles end up flipping because these flows transport south-pointing magnetic flux to the north magnetic pole, and north-pointing flux to the south magnetic pole." The dipole field steadily weakens as oppositely-directed flux accumulates at the Sun's poles until, at the height of solar maximum, the magnetic poles change polarity and begin to grow in a new direction.
(04.04.2005, 19:10)
NASA:
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Nasa:
I wont be able to finish this nasa report today. Come back tommorow i will put more in
(04.04.2005, 19:11)
stuck at home lately:
In another 2012 Mayan calender site I visited it said that during these times all materials which are not naturally occuring will cease to exist (including tooth fillings and surgically implanted plates) and that the resonance of the earth will be raised so that we will move from 3rd dimension to 4th and 5th dimensions and that beings will be awaiting our naked arrival to teach us the ropes for around 3 years from that time. Where will your seed cannister and folding shovel be then hey? Honestly, hasn't anyone told you that the best place to be in the event of a nuclear explosion is ground zero? Forget your mouldy bag of water and be at peace. If you buy anything, make it a cyanide pill - and keep it in a silver locket on a long heavy silver chain around your neck - and don't drink any water until the chain end of this one and only necessary device has been swirled around in it for six minutes. If you can no longer swirl lift your arm to swirl your silver chain in the water eat the tablet. The reason that this knowledge is not widespread by our authorities is because a) we are just fodder for something else anyway and b) physical survival may not be the favourable outcome. Pleasant dreams people - that's where the favourable outcome is. Final optimal behavioural pattern - be excellant to each other!
(05.04.2005, 02:57)
Constantin Udriste:
I have another point of view. See "Dumitru Opris, Constantin Udriste, Pole Shifts Explained by Dirac Delay in a Stefanescu Magnetic Flow, Analele Universitatii Bucuresti, Matematica, LIII (2004), 115-142.
(05.04.2005, 08:58)
Dr. Schavi M. Ali:
Peace and Love!
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- Everyone needs to read the book entitled ANCIENT FUTURE by Dr. Wayne Chandler. He has done an excelent job of researching the ancient information given to us by the Kemetu (Egyptians) on the future of the Earth. It is truly fascinating reading. Every culture's discussion on 2012 seems to line-up.
(12.04.2005, 08:14)
QM:
I wonder... if you take the mass of earth into calculation and the angular speed of rotation and, one can easily calculate the energy necessary to stop and reverse the rotation of earth in a certain time frame. The smaller the time the greater the energy (consequently force, inertia) needed.
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- And now I ask, what force (energy) is required to stop and reverse earth's rotation? Calculate it and you'll see that the required energy (blast) would have fried every living thing on this planet (if you take a lighting from sun as the energy source).
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- Now, if that happened in the past, how come we are still here?
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- Unless, the change of magnetic polarity (not rotation) happens (and there is evidence to support this) over several thousands of years (the energy "blast" is much less and takes course over longer period of time), primarily due changes in earth's core rotation, not because of a "lightning" from sun or any such SciFi bullshit.
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- And in that case, the consequences are less catastrophic. Other than confused compasses (and everything that depends on it), no bigger threat to our lives...
(18.04.2005, 04:58)
QM:
There is also one other possibility for all this... Please see www.enterprisemission.com, sections about Hyperdimensional Physics, Interplanetary "A Day after Tomorrow", and related links. More plausible and with helluva more evidence than any other speculation on the subject.
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- It could be that Mayans (or someone before them) observed such patterns as explained under Hyperdimensional Physics.
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- Please, spread the word.
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- (I don't own the site, so this ain't a shameless plug. :)
(21.04.2005, 08:53)
Anon:
wait, why would it matter if the poles reversed? wouldn't we keep calling North north?
- or am i missing something?
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aha:
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aha:
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rob:
There is a lot of speculation,yet 2010 to 2013 is going to be a bit of a mess for life on earth.Recently in India a highly regarded Divine Mother,the Supreme Shakti herself said 2010 to 2013 will be very bad years.What with Tibetan remote viewers predicting a few nukes going off around that period on top of everything else it does not look good.Can anyone show me how to consciously leave the body?.....Peace.
(30.04.2005, 10:44)
Rock:
The only thing that I believe on this august bulletin board is what NASA posted. For your information. The polarity of the Earth changes around every 100,000 years. This was scientifically proven by under ocean lava emissions from mother Earth. When lava cools, certain parts of the atom align themself with the magnetic pole. This is how it was proven scientifically! It reverses around every 100k years. All this garbage about cataclysms is pure bunk! It's been changing polarity for
- several centuries. Mother Earth will outlive you - trust me! Sleep well.
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- RB
(04.05.2005, 08:07)
John Blackburn:
The novel "DECIPHER" by Stel Pavlou is a very exciting take on the 2012 scenario.
(05.05.2005, 15:43)
darby john gill:
i just want to know if this pole shift takes place and to how many meters would the water rise since the polar ice caps will eventually melt. if i'm not mistaken the polar caps hold 70% of the earth's water. reading on, this is not the end of the world as some might say but this phenomenon is the only chance that the earth could replenish itself... even if it has to destroy man in the process. this is where the human race is put to the test... how he could start all over again...like they say: "back to the old drawing board"... if this happens or not, at least we have a glimpse of what to expect and be ready when the time comes. i guess that's what meant by knowing your adversary...
(08.05.2005, 11:57)
Pseudo:
ascension2000.com/Shift-of-the-Ages/index.htm
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- ...and more. Three online (free) books, a lot of material to read. Read all before throwing conclusions.
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- Science backed theory of everything which fits Mayan prophecies, Vedas, pole shifts, ..., and recent changes in our solar system.
(08.05.2005, 14:04)
Anon:
This site is full of demonic LIES, all total bullshit by a sadistic Aussie freak who thinks he is some sort of prophet--Well, he's NOTHING.NOTHING, NOTHING!!!!!
(18.05.2005, 02:20)
Dane:
the earth is overdue for a few things, supervolcanic eruptions (see yellowstone) MAGNETIC polar shifts, to name a few. The point is that probably anyone here agrees that these things will happen in relatively short order. My suggestion is that bickering be left out of discussion and that a forum for solutions be created instead of one for predictions. For the last little while I've been reading about prophecy, geohistorical cataclisms, the iluminatti, scalar science and other things of the like. Many different people offering many different answers. I suggest an organization of ideas from the few around the globe who have an idea of whats to come to those who have none. Alex feel free to e mail me.
(18.05.2005, 14:25)
Renee Henry (Alpha Educat:
perhaps you would like a link to my website and research www.alpha-education.co.uk The question becomes how did giant sea animals become stranded in the Andes etc.? The oceans shifted. Further I find time scales are out by factors of 10.
(29.05.2005, 12:38)
Etch-a-Sketch:
I guess the earth is kind of like a giant Etch-a-Sketch;every once in a while you have to shake it and start all over......
(17.07.2005, 06:30)
Denis:
Your thesis sounds plausible and seems credible... however, if this is the case, why are you not providing any thoughts of protection, shelter, safety? Question: Where do you intend to be during the cataclysmic events in Dec. 2012?
(19.07.2005, 13:26)
randy:
I don't get it. How do you know this stuff? I am in college, and have taken geology classes, physics classes, astronomy classes etc.; and know that the polar shift will happen soonish, but the question is how do you know that the worlds rotation will switch direction? The suns rotation does not change when the poles change. Venus and Uranus are the only planets that do not rotate like all the rest, and the reasons they do not rotate like the rest have nothing to do with the "north" and "south" pole. I know that you will make lots of money because people are so stupid, they will believe all this stuff, so more power to you. I wish I could come up with ideas like that.
(23.07.2005, 13:22)
Anon:
Randy, Bast didn't come up with these ideas, nor did the authors of Orion Prophecy. Pole-shifting and/or crustal slippage theories have been around since the Greeks but only popularized by 20th century writers, after a revival in the 17th and 18th century by geologists trying to explain the Biblical Flood. The only shift to which I think you refer may be a couple thousand years from now, when the geomagnetic field reverses.
(24.07.2005, 02:09)
Jason:
I accidendly stumbled across this site, and feel it is for a reason. I do not know who exactly hosts this site...It is 4:50 am where I am, and I am rather tired. I feel it is of great importance that I find a way to get into contact with either Mr. Geryl or Ratinckx. This is no fluke...not a prank or put on. I just need to talk to either of them. I have read only part of The Orion Prophesy, and am already in a state of shock. Please, contact me. I know you get these a lot, and I'd understand if you didn't make some sort of reply...but, one Email is all I ask.
(05.08.2005, 04:56)
dade arinto:
The Kabbah in Makkah located in Saudi Arabia is the ancient North Pole and the South Pole is Tuamoto Island according to the Alquran since 10.000 years ago.
(11.08.2005, 12:11)
Honest Bob Hates BS:
This is hilarious....... polar shift dont destroy the world... how the hell could they?
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- Which pole is which changes nothing, we spin the way we do mostly because of the moon, changing our poles will have no difference.
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- Our poles are constantly changing neway, running around all over the place. Just before a polar reversal u can expect one hell of a lot more than that, mith multiple poles all over the shop.
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- But it wont matter one bit...
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- Anyway was gonna go thorugh his garbage line by line and highlight its fraudilence but i CBA its so ovbiously bullshit, if people are convinced by that blindly without bothering to look fo another source...
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- Another source : http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003 /29dec_magneticfield.htm
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- Im not gonna jump around all over science like its the new godhead or anything, but id rather source u peeps some real science than see it used as a fear mongering
- tool.
(17.08.2005, 16:02)
Vinni Stewart:
There are many things we so obviously do not know for sure about polar reversal, and many other mysteries of the solar system and the universe, that making these wild predictions semms kinda short sighted to me. How anyone can claim to know the results of a polar reversal, regardless of where they gathered the info, strikes me as ignorant and short sighted. I accept that reversal is probably imminent but feel that only when it happens will we truly know what effect it will have to life on earth. The year 2000 came and went and left a lot of doomsayers looking very silly. My guess is come 2012 there will be a few more embarrased so called "experts". Sleep well, live life and enjoy. Cheers everyone.
(27.08.2005, 10:07)
XY-SATAN:
The sun is building up energy to release it ? And the earth will change polarity ?
- aahahaha!!
- I'm just curios how can conclusions be drawn on speculations ? I mean the written word has only been circulated by the invention of printing type devices for not much more then 3500 years ago , and before that hand written, and before that ....... . Now in the last 500 years we've been accelerating in our knowledge in a multitude of different ways to spread information from hand delivered messenger, to sitting drinking a beer and deciding world scientific theory over a portable lap top .
- As do we evolve from slow to fast at an accelerated rate from children to adults, so does this planet .
- And when you're talking about tectonic shifts and planet rotation ,you must also think of crust shifting from north to south . Thus explaining why you can find topical fossil records of topical areas that went from hot to cold . Yes the magna coming out of this planet holds the record of paleomagnetic evidence...... right .... a lot of this evidence is from the study of magnetic imprint in said magma .
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- Meaning ?
(28.08.2005, 07:50)
XoFFoX:
Man !!! All I see here is small minds who attack what they don't understand !!! There is evidence of previous crustal shifts and scientific evidence to back it up. What more do you freakin need ??? For those of you lacking vision ... This is all part of a learning experience for soul evolution. The fellow who posted the link to the works of David Wilcock did his homework. I read all 3 and they go a long way to explain this event in a very scientific manner. For those of you who cannot wrap your noodles around this, sit back in a nice comfy chair with a couple two fours and watch your futures end. Survival is absolutely possible if you make the preparations and watch for the signs.
- Anyone who believes what NASA says is like an idiot who places his life in the hands of a bunch of batteries. They still think comets are dirty snowballs for Christ sake !!! Geryl got the reverse rotation idea right. When U reverse electrical input to a DC motor, it spins the other way and the Earth is a giant homopolar motor just like the Sun is and all the galaxies. ALL run on electrical currents in a sea of plasma and that electricity comes from the Aether.
- XoFFoX
(06.09.2005, 08:38)
hannan:
The switching of the poles takes more than a day, a decade. You theory seems pausible but the spining of the axes is not the same in the equater and the poles. Just like a merry go round the spinning is immediate in the center but takes more time while you approach the end of the circle (the poles). Scientist have discovered that this shifting took place in the past but was achieved in 500 to 700 years!
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- The dooms day expectation of 2012 alignes with the Maya calendar and makes people's imagination want to happen. The true catastophy would rather be the actual shifting and the multiplication of north poles, because the Earth will loose it's sense of north and south MEANWHILE. Which means we will have navigational problems and animals will loose their sense of natural orientation. The other consequence is tectonic mouvements and weather incidents of major dimension. A slow shifting has electric consquences on the weather. The Earth may be undergoing acceleration of spin before the inner core starts spinning in opposite direction in 500 years time. The earth may be spinning round the Sun at a different rate because of the change of poles that has taken place on the Sun folowing scientific evidence from satelite pictures.
(07.09.2005, 07:37)
hannan:
see http://www.psc.edu/science/Glatzmaier/
- glatzmaier.html
- for a serious comment not trigged by the Maya calender or "Worlds in Collision"
(08.09.2005, 02:45)
xysatan:
(08.09.2005, 02:52)
TW:
In February 2001, the Sun did a magnetic polar shift. The next one is due again in 2012. Did you notice?
- The last reversal happened 740,000 years ago for the earth.
- FACTS. Will there be global destruction? I doubt it. But then again I am not trying to sell a book <grin>
(08.09.2005, 14:31)
hannan:
(09.09.2005, 09:49)
xysatan:
(09.09.2005, 20:44)
vh:
(12.09.2005, 05:08)
vh:
see
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- http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth /29dec_magneticfield.html
(12.09.2005, 05:12)
Nigger:
All hail destruction.
(12.09.2005, 22:46)
Anonumus:
Im very concerned. I know so much about space. Hypernovas, gamma-ray bursts, sedna the new "planet". But Im unsure what to believe. Please anyone. Tell me this isnt true. Please. If not i must ask: is it definate? Or do we have a small chance of it not happening? If you stumble across an answer (dont let it be from this site) email me at Scorp@rock.com. Thank you for your time.
(13.09.2005, 11:42)
Anon:
First you must learn to spell. Beyond that, I don't think you have much to worry about.
(14.09.2005, 02:37)
Enchantress:
The Bible, Buddha, Nostradamus - many sources are predicting this...
- key is to just live in and for the glory of God - be the best Being you
- can possibly be: show love, compassion, forgiveness, read learn and
- evolve... when it is your time, embrace and accept what is meant to be.
(17.09.2005, 19:48)
Yo Mama:
HAHAHAHAHA you guys is crazy!!! Fuckas!!
(19.09.2005, 17:34)
Protostar:
Funny how close minded some people are. But education is hard to come by I guess. People read and DON'T THINK. Remarkable... Anyway,
- Most people don't know what a GEOPHYSICAL POLE REVERSAL is. I believe it will come to pass and
- sooner than anyone thinks because time has changed (losing arc seconds is no joke)We are now at the very brink of EARTH CHANGES and to survive it all, you must be prepared.
- Spiritually as well. The prudent see danger and seek refuge and the simple keep going and suffer for it.
(21.09.2005, 19:40)
Anon:
Look you do what you want and the rest of us educated people will do what we want-See how that works?
(22.09.2005, 02:00)
Anon:
confused compasses? there are 3 norths. grid north, magnetic north and true north. true north is the exact centre of the north pole. grid north is the little arrow on the top of a map. however magnetic north, hmmm compasses do not face the north pole but a big lump of metal (cant remember which) under the earths crust. which currently is under greenland-canada. the metal changes afew degrees every year. every 4-5 years it moves back in the opposite direction. so what i can gather, magnetic north (the direction the arrow in your compass points to) will not change due to a "polar shift". now that is really not likely, and people who write theoris like these ones really need to do something more with their life then trying to make money selling a book and trying to scare people.
(22.09.2005, 11:15)
Anon:
the answer to the meaning of life and the universe is.........42! perhaps you lot could go read "the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" i believe the figures in that book more then the crap on this site. i dunno if a publisher will take you on but i hope you do get some luck because you have spent alot of time and effort on this even though its speculation at its most trivial.
(22.09.2005, 11:39)
protostar:
Anon poster. Why don't you give a name?
- I want you to read this paper, here is the
- address tmgnow.com/repository/gl...tophysical.html read it then tell me what you think.
- I AM PROTOSTAR not an anon....
(22.09.2005, 18:58)
Anon:
We anon are legion---there are many of us.....
(23.09.2005, 02:09)
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