{"id":2350,"date":"2011-12-18T09:19:04","date_gmt":"2011-12-17T22:19:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/?p=2350"},"modified":"2011-12-18T09:19:05","modified_gmt":"2011-12-17T22:19:05","slug":"nasa-no-supernova-in-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/2011\/12\/nasa-no-supernova-in-2012-2350.html","title":{"rendered":"NASA: No Supernova in 2012"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before we get to the debunk itself, here&#8217;s a couple of thoughts:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>LAZY:<\/strong><\/span> The first 3 pages on Google for 2012 supernova find a straight-to-video mockbuster movie of the same name, and a website called 2012supernova.org that doesn&#8217;t actually mention supernovas. And that&#8217;s it. They are debunking something that didn&#8217;t need debunking because nobody believes it.<\/p>\n<p>Of course now there&#8217;s a web page about it written by NASA&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-2351\" href=\"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/2011\/12\/nasa-no-supernova-in-2012-2350.html\/2012_supernova\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2351\" title=\"2012_Supernova\" src=\"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/2012_Supernova.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"306\" srcset=\"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/2012_Supernova.jpg 220w, http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/2012_Supernova-215x300.jpg 215w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 220px) 100vw, 220px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>NO DISCLAIMER: <\/strong><\/span>Every time scientists tell us about space, they should really put a disclaimer at the bottom, saying: <em>We are constantly learning about outer space, every year we find many things that we didn&#8217;t expect, and everything we tell you could be proven to be wrong if new data arrives.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The NASA debunk itself is pretty standard:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yes<\/strong> &#8211; supernovae and gamma-ray bursts could fry us.<br \/>\n<strong>No<\/strong> &#8211; there&#8217;s no stars or black holes close enough to harm us, and anyway they won&#8217;t happen soon.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Given the incredible amounts of energy in a supernova explosion \u2013 as much as the sun creates during its entire lifetime \u2013 another erroneous doomsday theory is that such an explosion could happen in 2012 and harm life on Earth. However, given the vastness of space and the long times between supernovae, astronomers can say with certainty that there is no threatening star close enough to hurt Earth.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/topics\/earth\/features\/2012-supernova.html\">http:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/topics\/earth\/features\/2012-supernova.html<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem is that they lie by omission. Determining if something from space can harm us requires an equation. I have no idea how to formulate a scientific equation for supernovae and GMBs, but I do know that an equation has more than one part. So in layman&#8217;s terms it would go like this:<\/p>\n<p>Force \/ Distance = Harm<\/p>\n<p>If our Sun goes supernova, we are dead. If a star 1 billion light years away that is the size of our Sun goes supernova, we are safe. That&#8217;s distance.<\/p>\n<p>But the other variable is force. The size of a star might not be the only indicator, and there&#8217;s might be different types of supernova &#8211; imagine a supernova jet! This is from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.space.com\/scienceastronomy\/100104-aas-close-supernova.html\">Space.com<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Astronomers have previously said that any supernova explosion within 100  light-years of Earth would likely be devastating, but beyond 100  light-years, it\u2019s not known for sure what the effects might be. However,  astronomers have also been keeping an eye on Eta Carinae, a potential  supernova about 7,500 light-years away. <strong>One factor, astronomers say, is  how powerful a given supernova is.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The debunk was written by a senior staff writer, so there&#8217;s no excuse for ignoring recent science news on the topic:<\/p>\n<p>Jan 2011: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.businesswire.com\/news\/home\/20100823005996\/en\">Gamma Rays have been detected from a nova<\/a> (not to be confused with a supernova) for the first time, something that has surprised scientists.<br \/>\nMarch 2010: <em>T Pyxidis<\/em>, 3260 light years away, could go supernova <a href=\"http:\/\/www.popsci.com.au\/technology\/article\/2010-01\/star-verge-supernova-could-threaten-life-earth\">at any time<\/a>.<br \/>\nFeb 2010: A GRB from <em>Wr 104<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/badastronomy\/2008\/03\/03\/wr-104-a-nearby-gamma-ray-burst\/\">could harm us<\/a>.<br \/>\nApril 2009: Stefan Immler of NASA\u2019s Goddard Space Flight Center <a href=\"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/2009\/04\/supernova-theory-wrong-281.html\">suggests<\/a> that Eta Carinae could explode in our lifetime or even in the next few years.<br \/>\nFeb 2009: A flash in space that lasted 200 days puzzles scientists. One suggestion is that it is a <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.wired.com\/wiredscience\/2009\/01\/bright-flash.html\">new type of supernova<\/a>.<br \/>\nApril 2008: Supernova <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.space.com\/scienceastronomy\/080108-eta-carinae.html\">SN 2006gy<\/a><\/em> was 100x brighter than usual.<\/p>\n<p>And just a few days ago I reported on the super-massive black holes that have been discovered&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before we get to the debunk itself, here&#8217;s a couple of thoughts:<br \/>\nLAZY: The first 3 pages on Google for 2012 supernova find a straight-to-video mockbuster movie of the same name, and a website called 2012supernova.org that doesn&#8217;t actually mention supernovas. And that&#8217;s it. They are debunking something that didn&#8217;t need debunking because nobody believes it.<br \/>\nOf course now there&#8217;s a web page about it written by NASA&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>NO DISCLAIMER: Every time scientists tell us about space, they should really put a disclaimer at the bottom, saying: We are constantly learning about outer space, every year we find many things that we didn&#8217;t expect, and everything we tell you could be proven to be wrong if new data arrives.<br \/>\nThe NASA debunk itself is pretty standard:<br \/>\nYes &#8211; supernovae and gamma-ray bursts could fry us.<br \/>\nNo &#8211; there&#8217;s no stars or black holes close enough to harm us, and anyway they won&#8217;t happen soon.<br \/>\nGiven the incredible &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[140],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2350","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-supernova"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2350","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2350"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2350\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2354,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2350\/revisions\/2354"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2350"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2350"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2350"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}<!-- WP Super Cache is installed but broken. 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