{"id":2118,"date":"2011-11-04T14:06:18","date_gmt":"2011-11-04T03:06:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/?p=2118"},"modified":"2011-11-04T14:06:19","modified_gmt":"2011-11-04T03:06:19","slug":"skeptic-hoopes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/2011\/11\/skeptic-hoopes-2118.html","title":{"rendered":"Skeptic Avoids Long Count Calendar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You can really sense the fear when experts and authority figures use spin rather than logic to discredit something.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.news.ku.edu\/2011\/november\/3\/hoopes.shtml\">press release<\/a> from the University of Kansas, regarding the work of  anthropologist and Maya scholar John Hoopes, is all about debunking  11\/11\/11 and 2012.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-2119\" href=\"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/2011\/11\/skeptic-hoopes-2118.html\/hoopes\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2119\" title=\"hoopes\" src=\"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/hoopes.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"240\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The next big date to consider is  11\/11\/11, when many in the New Age  movement plan celebrations to  receive emerging energies in preparation  for a transformation of  consciousness on Dec. 21, 2012.<\/p>\n<p>Whether these dates mark a time  for transformation of  consciousness or a catastrophic end, they are  part of a 2012  eschatological myth that originated with Christopher  Columbus and  Franciscan missionaries, <em>not the ancient Maya calendar<\/em>, Hoopes  emphasizes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I <em>presume <\/em>Hoopes is suggesting that in the 1500s the concept of a  religious doomsday was popular, and he believes that is the main  source for such beliefs today.<\/p>\n<p>While  plenty of New Agers have co-opted 2012 into their own ideas regarding  aliens \/ light workers \/ dimensions \/ vibrations and of course the  teaching of elders in far off lands&#8230; all these things would have been popular today with or without 2012.<\/p>\n<p><em>Not the ancient Maya calendar<\/em>,  says Hoopes. Well, without the end date of the Long Count  calendar, we wouldn&#8217;t have a doomsday date. And Dec 21 2012 was only  determined in modern times.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To validate his  convictions, Columbus wrote his own Book of Prophecies  that included an  account of his interview with a \u201cMaia\u201d leader in 1502.  The reference  inspired early speculation by explorers and missionaries,  indirectly  influencing crackpots as well as scholars to link ancient  Maya \u2014 before  any contact with Europeans \u2014 with the astrological and  religious  beliefs popular in Europe in the 1500s.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s just  part and parcel of the co-opting that occurs in all sorts of circles.  The most famous works of mysticism and paganism have all stolen from  ancient and foreign cultures, just as New Agers today love to align  themselves with Atlantis, druids and ancient Egypt.<\/p>\n<p>Lawrence E  Joseph, Patrick Geryl and myself have come to our own understandings  about our fate in 2012. We have each looked into ancient history and  modern science, and I think it is safe to say that ponderings of  Columbus weren&#8217;t of any influence. Other doom &#8216;n&#8217; gloom 2012ers who  focus on things like LHC, earth changes and Nibiru, likewise do not cite  Columbus, or any misinterpretations of Mayan culture in the 1500s.<\/p>\n<p>Some  New Agers may have been influenced as Hoopes charges, but they aren&#8217;t  expecting Armageddon. They have chosen to counter Armageddon with  concepts transformation and happiness. If you really want to debunk  2012, you need to provide an alternate explanation for the Mayans using  Dec 21 2012 as their end date, and you need to negate the very real possibilities of the Sun, or a comet, harming us.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You can really sense the fear when experts and authority figures use spin rather than logic to discredit something.<br \/>\nToday&#8217;s  press release from the University of Kansas, regarding the work of  anthropologist and Maya scholar John Hoopes, is all about debunking  11\/11\/11 and 2012.<\/p>\n<p>The next big date to consider is  11\/11\/11, when many in the New Age  movement plan celebrations to  receive emerging energies in preparation  for a transformation of  consciousness on Dec. 21, 2012.<br \/>\nWhether these dates mark a time  for transformation of  consciousness or a catastrophic end, they are  part of a 2012  eschatological myth that originated with Christopher  Columbus and  Franciscan missionaries, not the ancient Maya calendar, Hoopes  emphasizes.<br \/>\nI presume Hoopes is suggesting that in the 1500s the concept of a  religious doomsday was popular, and he believes that is the main  &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[67],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2118","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mayan-calendar"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2118","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2118"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2118\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2128,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2118\/revisions\/2128"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2118"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2118"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/survive2012.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2118"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}<!-- WP Super Cache is installed but broken. 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