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		<title>Dec 21, 2012: The Darkest Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bast</dc:creator>
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What if the end date of the ancient Mayan Long Count calendar was not meant to be taken literally?
The first question you need to ask is this: Dec 21 is also the Winter Solstice (in the northern hemisphere) &#8211; the darkest day of the year, so it is a coincidence or deliberate?
The second question is, if the date is deliberate, then why?
If there is a scientific basis to the Long Count calendar, if it is ultimately reflecting a scientific prediction, then there are still more questions:

Is there anything about a Winter Solstice than can cause a catastrophe?
Could an ancient culture predict a catastrophe, thousands of years away, accurate to a single day?
Or is Dec 21, 2012 a symbolic date for a scientific prediction for approximately Dec 2012?

What we do know:

The ancient Germanic people celebrated the solstice with Yule logs
The very ancient Newgrange tomb in Ireland is aligned to the winter ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2012/05/darkest-day-3078.html">Dec 21, 2012: The Darkest Day</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p>What if the end date of the ancient Mayan Long Count calendar was not meant to be taken literally?</p>
<p>The first question you need to ask is this: Dec 21 is also the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice" rel="nofollow" >Winter Solstice</a> (in the northern hemisphere) &#8211; the <strong>darkest day of the year</strong>, so it is a coincidence or deliberate?</p>
<p>The second question is, if the date is deliberate, <strong>then why?</strong></p>
<p>If there is a scientific basis to the Long Count calendar, if it is ultimately reflecting a scientific prediction, then there are still more questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is there anything about a Winter Solstice than can cause a catastrophe?</li>
<li>Could an ancient culture predict a catastrophe, thousands of years away, accurate to a single day?</li>
<li>Or is Dec 21, 2012 a symbolic date for a scientific prediction for <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">approximately </span></em>Dec 2012?</li>
</ul>
<p>What we do know:</p>
<ul>
<li>The ancient Germanic people celebrated the solstice with Yule logs</li>
<li>The very ancient Newgrange tomb in Ireland is aligned to the <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/111221-winter-solstice-shortest-day-year-december-christmas-earth-science/" rel="nofollow" >winter solstice</a>. As is <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2010/dec/21/light-darkest-day-winter-solstice" rel="nofollow" >Maeshowe</a>.</li>
<li>Christmas was a pagan solstice festival hijacked by Christians</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2012/05/darkest-day-3078.html/maeshowe"rel="attachment wp-att-3081" ><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3081" title="maeshowe" src="http://survive2012.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/maeshowe.jpg" alt="" width="460" height="276" /></a></p>
<p>Just as the Christians choose to celebrate rebirth at the time of Easter, the ancient Mayans selected the winter solstice period to be the  end times, with the rebirth to follow:</p>
<blockquote><p>Christmas is commemorated just after the winter solstice, which is the darkest day of the year. As the hours of daylight begin to increase again, so also the light that comes into the world in Jesus begins our shift out of darkness. Similarly, the ancient formula for determining <a href="http://www.netplaces.com/virgin-mary/mary-and-the-goddess/archetype-of-the-eternal-feminine.htm" rel="nofollow" >the time of Easter</a> is to celebrate it on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the vernal (spring) equinox. At this time, spring is in full bloom, and life comes to reign again upon the earth.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>My opinion goes like this:</strong> both the return of a long-period comet and the cycles of massive solar storms were predictable by ancient cultures &#8211; all it took was thousands of years of observations (comets in the sky, auroras at low latitudes) combined with solid math. Neither are likely to be predictable to a certain day after thousands of years, but their best guess could be a specific year. Not wanting to name day, the message that we have received is the darkest day of a year, to represent a small era of prediction.</p>
<p>A massive solar storm, or the return of a comet, could be happening real soon. But I advise everyone to stay on alert beyond Dec 21, 2012 &#8211; that might not be a date to take literally.</p>
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		<title>2012: Transit of Venus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bast</dc:creator>
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The planet Venus was important to the Maya civilization, who developed a religious calendar based in part upon its motions, and held the motions of Venus to determine the propitious time for events such as war. They named it Noh Ek&#8217;, the Great Star, and Xux Ek&#8217;, the Wasp Star. The Maya were aware of the planet&#8217;s synodic period, and could compute it to within a hundredth part of a day. (source: Wikipedia)
The Transit of Venus is pretty much the same as a solar eclipse, except that it is Venus passing in front of the Sun, and not the Moon. The other key difference is that from our point of view Venus appears much smaller in the sky, and it will not blot out the Sun:

Transits of Venus only occur roughly every 100 years, in pairs that are 8 years apart. The first of the current pair was in 2004, and the second is ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2012/01/2012-transit-of-venus-2521.html">2012: Transit of Venus</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p><em><strong>The planet Venus was important to the Maya civilization</strong>, who developed a religious calendar based in part upon its motions, and held the motions of Venus to determine the propitious time for events such as war. They named it Noh Ek&#8217;, the Great Star, and Xux Ek&#8217;, the Wasp Star. The Maya were aware of the planet&#8217;s synodic period, and could compute it to within a hundredth part of a day. </em>(source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus#In_culture" rel="nofollow" >Wikipedia</a>)</p>
<p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Venus" rel="nofollow" >Transit of Venus</a> is pretty much the same as a solar eclipse, except that it is Venus passing in front of the Sun, and not the Moon. The other key difference is that from our point of view Venus appears much smaller in the sky, and it will not blot out the Sun:</p>
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<p>Transits of Venus only occur roughly every 100 years, in pairs that are 8 years apart. The first of the current pair was in 2004, and the second is on June 6, 2012. That will be last transit until 2117. Perhaps it is not a coincidence that the Long Count calender ends just a few months after a transit? If the use of the winter solstice was symbolic, then the transit could be what the ancient Mayans were warning us of?</p>
<p>Orthodox science tells us that solar eclipses do not affect our planet (they do, but only a little), and the same logic applies to a transit. As with planetary alignments, the gravity involved is negligible. We can rule out gravity. That leaves two other possibilities:</p>
<ul>
<li>electrical interference, as in <em>the electric universe</em></li>
<li>interruption of the solar wind</li>
</ul>
<p>According to Immanuel Velikovsky, in <em>Worlds in Collision</em> (pages 166-168) it was common for ancient peoples to describe Venus as having a tail. In Mexico it was called the &#8220;star that smoked&#8221;, and the Chaldeans said Venus had a beard. In the Talmud it says &#8220;Fire is hanging down from the planet Venus&#8221;. The Arabs and Babylonians called it &#8220;the one with hair.</p>
<p>Proponents of <em>the electric universe</em> will tell you that Pioneer discovered that Venus has an <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1984JGR....89...47I" rel="nofollow" >electrically charged plasma tail</a>.</p>
<p>Nothing happened during the transit of 2004, but this time around we are nearing the solar peak, so that might make difference. Perhaps a solar storm in conjunction with the transit is meaningful? According to the <a href="http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/stargate-2004-2012-venus-transit" rel="nofollow" >research</a> of Will Hart, historically transits seem influential:</p>
<ul>
<li>1518 / 1526 &#8211; Cortez conquered Mexico in 1519. The Aztecs were already fearful that something bad would happen.</li>
<li>1631 / 1639 &#8211; after sunspots being on the increase for 300 years, in 1640 they ceased for 70 years, causing the Little Ice Age.</li>
<li>1761 &#8211; 1769 &#8211; nothing mentioned by Hart, but in 1761 it seems every country was at war.</li>
<li>1874 / 1882 &#8211; Krakatoa erupted in 1883.</li>
</ul>
<p>I believe people should be especially prepared and vigilant for 6 months either side of Dec 2012, and being ready this June would be prudent. The Maya had a keen interest in Venus, the Aztecs expected the worst during transits, and of course we are now already in the fateful year of 2012&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Popol Vuh? Vaticano-Latin Codex? Aztec Sun Stone?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bast</dc:creator>
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The Popol Vuh, the Vaticano-Latin Codex and the Aztec Sun Stone are the primary sources for the 2012 Doomsday meme. Yet when I search Google News for references in the last week &#8211; a week in which 2012 has been covered by virtually every western newspaper &#8211; there is a singular mention of the Popol Vuh in an Indian newspaper, and that is it.
Is there a conspiracy to hide the truth? No, it&#8217;s just lazy reporting. Real lazy. Basically reporters have just looked at whatever made the news regarding 2012 in the last month or two and regurgitated it.
Mentioned the most has been NASA debunking anything to do with 2012, and scholars dismissing the Tortuguero monument:
One glyphic text that records the date 13.0.0.0.0, a carved stone plaque from the Mexican site of Tortuguero, was ambiguously read by Maya scholars in 1996 as possibly predicting an ominous event — the “descent” ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2012/01/vaticano-latin-codex-2451.html">Popol Vuh? Vaticano-Latin Codex? Aztec Sun Stone?</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p>The Popol Vuh, the Vaticano-Latin Codex and the Aztec Sun Stone are the primary sources for the 2012 Doomsday meme. Yet when I search Google News for references in the last week &#8211; a week in which 2012 has been covered by virtually every western newspaper &#8211; there is a singular mention of the Popol Vuh in an Indian newspaper, and that is it.</p>
<p>Is there a conspiracy to hide the truth? No, it&#8217;s just lazy reporting. Real lazy. Basically reporters have just looked at whatever made the news regarding 2012 in the last month or two and regurgitated it.</p>
<p>Mentioned the most has been NASA debunking anything to do with 2012, and scholars dismissing the Tortuguero monument:</p>
<blockquote><p>One glyphic text that records the date 13.0.0.0.0, a carved stone plaque from the Mexican site of Tortuguero, was ambiguously read by Maya scholars in 1996 as possibly predicting an ominous event — the “descent” of a deity associated with the underworld. The scholars posted their interpretation online, and that reading spread rapidly across the Internet in the following years, promoted by 2012ologists as evidence of a specific Maya prophecy. Meanwhile, epigraphers — those who study the glyphs — gave the Tortuguero plaque a closer look.</p>
<p>The consensus today is that the text refers to a future commemoration of that date, when the local ruler will impersonate or represent that deity. It is not a doomsday prophecy but a bold assertion that the seventh-century building once marked by the plaque would still stand in 2012.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-2012-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/2011/12/27/gIQAoDIxQP_story_1.html" rel="nofollow" >http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-2012-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/2011/12/27/gIQAoDIxQP_story_1.html</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Or we have this from Nick Pope in <a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4023834/Will-world-really-end-Dec-21-2012.html" rel="nofollow" >The Sun</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>CENTRAL America&#8217;s Mayan civilization, which prospered from 300AD to 900AD. is  known for its strides in astronomy and creating the Long Count calendar.</p>
<p>It started in 3114BC and ends on December 21 next year.</p>
<p>Doomsday theories stem from the discovery of a carved stone tablet in the  Sixties at Tortuguero in the Gulf of Mexico.</p>
<p>It describes the return of Mayan god Quetzalcoatl (meaning feathered serpent)  when the calendar runs out. Some claim that signals the end of humanity.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Tortuguero monument has only been discussed in the last few years, and mostly in the last month. It is not the source of 2012 doomsday ideas.<em> These are</em>:</p>
<h2>Popol Vuh</h2>
<p>The invading Spanish burned thousands of Mayan books, and only four survived. None of those four tell us what the Mayans thought in terms of mythology. After the Spanish conquest those myths were written down in a book known as the Popol Vuh. The creation myth near the start of the book details cycles of creation and destruction.</p>
<p>The First Age began with the creation of the Earth, and it had upon it  vegetation and living beings. Unfortunately, because they lacked speech,  the birds and animals were unable to pay homage to the gods and were  destroyed. In the Second and Third Ages the gods created humans of mud  and then wood, but these also failed to please and were wiped out. We  are currently in the Fourth and Final Age, the age of the modern, fully  functional human.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example of the text:</p>
<blockquote><p>THEN came the end of the effigies carved of wood, for they were ruined,<br />
crushed, and killed. A flood was planned by Heart of Sky that came down upon the<br />
heads of the effigies carved of wood.<br />
( Source: <a href="http://www.mesoweb.com/publications/Christenson/PopolVuh.pdf" rel="nofollow" >http://www.mesoweb.com/publications/Christenson/PopolVuh.pdf</a> )</p></blockquote>
<h2>Dresden Codex</h2>
<p>The Dresden Codex is one of the four ancient Mayan books that survived the Spanish conquest &#8211; all the rest were destroyed. It is also the oldest of the codices and therefore the closest time-wise to when the Long Count calendar was first used. It is basically a 3.5 meter folded book consisting of 39 pages, and for the most part it contains astronomical information, covering such things as planetary movements and eclipses. It tells us that the start of the Long Count calendar in 3114 BC was the &#8220;Birth of Venus&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of interest to us is the very last page of the Codex:</p>
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<p>The following quotes are from Mayan scholars discussing this page:</p>
<p><strong>Mark Van Stone</strong><br />
In any case, p. 74 of the Dresden does indeed appear to be a Flood, maybe even the one described in the Popol Vuh&#8230;Except there are no people being washed away, nor other indications of destruction, except the black warrior God L, who also presided at the 4 Ajaw 3 Kumk&#8217;u Creation (3114 BC) on the Vases of the 7 Gods and of the 11 Gods&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/comments.html" rel="nofollow" >http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/comments.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Ernst Wilhelm Förstemann</strong><br />
This page can denote nothing but the end of the world, for which the serpent numbers have prepared the way. Perhaps what looks like a zero above the sign Eb in the stream of water may likewise point to this calamity.</p>
<p><strong>Erik Velásquez García</strong><br />
(<a href="http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publications/journal/701/flood_e.pdf" rel="nofollow" >http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publications/journal/701/flood_e.pdf</a>)</p>
<p>Maybe because of this, the word B’aah Kaab’ is written on page 74 of the Dresden Codex, a passage traditionally interpreted as the destruction of the world caused by a flood (Thompson 1993:214-216; Davoust 1997:256-257; Schele and Grube 1997:198-199). In this scene we observe that the old Goddess O—Chaahk Chak Chel—is pouring out the destructive waters that she carries in a jar, while a black-painted God L holds his weapons over the surface of the earth while wielding a long staff. Streams of water descend from the jaws of a pluvial caiman and from a pair of eclipse glyphs that it carries below its body. According to Karl Taube (1995:72), the expressions “black sky” (B2: IK’-CHAN-na) and “black earth” (C2: IK’-KAB’-b’a) that appear in this scene are a possible reference to the destruction of the world.</p>
<h2>Vaticano-Latin Codex</h2>
<p><em>The Vaticano-Latin Codex is a collection of Aztec documents. </em></p>
<blockquote><p>First Sun, Matlactli Atl: duration 4008 years. Those who lived then  ate water maize called atzitzintli. In this age lived the giants &#8230; The  First Sun was destroyed by water in the sign Matlactli Atl (Ten Water).  It was called Apachiohualiztli (flood, deluge), the art of sorcery of  the permanent rain. Men were turned into fish. Some say that only one  couple escaped, protected by an old tree living near the water. Others  say that there were seven couples who hid in a cave until the flood was  over and the waters had gone down. They repopulated the earth and were  worshipped as gods in their nations &#8230;</p>
<p>Second Sun, Ehecoatl:  duration 4010 years. Those who lived then ate wild fruit known as  acotzintli. This Sun was destroyed by Ehecoatl (Wind Serpent) and men  were turned into monkeys &#8230; One man and one woman, standing on a rock,  were saved from destruction &#8230;</p>
<p>Third Sun, Tleyquiyahuillo:  duration 4081 years. Men, the descendants of the couple who were saved  from the Second Sun, ate a fruit called tzincoacoc. This Third Sun was  destroyed by fire &#8230;</p>
<p>Fourth Sun, Tzontlilic: duration 5026 years &#8230; Men died of starvation after a deluge of blood and fire</p>
<p>(Source: <em>Fingerprints of the Gods</em> by Graham Hancock, 1995, page 106 &#8211; copied online <a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/fingerprintgods/fingerprintgods03.htm" rel="nofollow" >here</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait a sec &#8211; that&#8217;s Aztec, not Maya! Not a problem, for the Aztec inherited their myths from the Maya. Mark Van Stone <a href="http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/2012Part2.pdf" rel="nofollow" >says</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Aztec adapted their Five Creations stories (called the “Five Suns”) from Maya and other accounts.  Our knowledge of the Aztec myths is much more complete than that of their antecedents.  If we proceed with caution, keeping in mind that they changed things at will, it will be instructive to examine the Aztec Creation cycle as a reflection of the older Maya tradition.</p></blockquote>
<h2>Aztec Sun Stone</h2>
<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2012/01/vaticano-latin-codex-2451.html/sun_stone"rel="attachment wp-att-2455" ><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2455" title="sun_stone" src="http://survive2012.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/sun_stone.gif" alt="" width="442" height="428" /></a></p>
<p>Although commonly used to represent the Mayan Long Count calendar, this 12 foot, 24 ton stone is also from the Aztecs. It confirms that the four previous Suns ended tragically:</p>
<blockquote><p>The god is surrounded by four glyphs symbolizing the cataclysms that  ended each of the prior solar eras. According to Mexica belief, earth&#8217;s  earliest inhabitants were devoured by jaguars. The demise of the second  sun brought destruction by great winds. The third era ended with fiery  rain, while the fourth sun was extinguished by massive floods. (Source: El Ojo del Lago, 1993, online <a href="http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/199-mysteries-of-the-fifth-sun-the-aztec-calendar" rel="nofollow" >here</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Or we can use this description from Anthony Aveni who has recently been debunking 2012:</p>
<blockquote><p>The concept of the cyclic destruction and rebirth of the world is a common theme in Mesoamerican religion and mythology. On the famous Aztec calendar stone, surrounding the face of the Sun God, about whom all periodic phenomena in nature take place, we see four rectangular panels symbolizing the destruction of the world on each of the previous epochs through which it has passed. In the most remote epoch (upper right), giants who inhabited the earth were attacked and devoured by jaguars. At the upper left, the god of wind symbolizes the hurricanes that carried away the people of the second epoch. The third cosmogonic epoch, symbolized the god of fire-rain at the lower left, was destroyed by lava and fire in a great volcanic eruption. The few survivors were those who were able to transform themselves into birds. Storms and torrential rains epitomized by the water god ending the fourth epoch (lower right panel) caused men to be changed into fishes. In the present, or fifth, epoch destruction by earthquake is said to await us.<br />
(Source: <em>Skywatchers of Ancient Mexico</em> by Anthony F. Aveni (1980, p. 143 &#8211; online <a href="http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/azcalImages.html" rel="nofollow" >here</a>)</p></blockquote>
<h2>Chilam Balam of Chumayel</h2>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It was during the Eleventh Ahau Katún when Ah Mucencab came forth and obscured the face of the Heavens [Oxlahun-ti-Ku] . . . It [the eclipse] occurred when the whole Earth began to awaken, but nobody knew what was to happen. Suddenly the Underworld Fires [Bolon-ti-Ku] seized the Heavens, and fire rained down, and ashes descended, and rocks and trees fell down, and wood and stone smashed together. Then the Heavens were seized and split asunder, the face of the Heavens [Oxlahun-ti-Ku] was buffeted back and forth . . . and thrown on its back . . . After that the fatherless, the miserable ones and the widows were all pierced through [the Tizímin and Mani versions say: "torn to pieces"]: they were all living when their hearts were stopped. And they were buried in the sand beneath the waves.</p>
<p>&#8220;And in one great sudden rush of water their Great Serpent [Canhel] was ravished from the Heavens [Oxlahun-ti-Ku] . The sky fell down and the dry land sank, when the four gods, the four Bacabs arose, who had brought about the annihilation of the world.**</p>
<p>&#8220;After the destruction was complete . . . the four pillars of the sky [Bacab trees] were re-established . . . And the Great Mother Seiba rose amidst recollections of the destruction of the Earth.&#8221;<br />
(Source: <a href="http://www.atlantisquest.com/Chum_l.html" rel="nofollow" >http://www.atlantisquest.com/Chum_l.html</a>)</p></blockquote>
<h2>Chilam Balam of Maní</h2>
<blockquote><p>[In the reign of 13 Ahau and 1 Ahau were the days and nights that fell without order, and pain was felt throughout the land.<br />
Because of this] Oxlahun ti Ku [the Thirteen Gods] and Bolon ti Ku [the Nine Gods] created the world and life; there was<br />
also born Itzam Cab Ain [Iguana Earth Crocodile].<br />
[Ah Mesencab] turned the sky and the Petén upside down, and Bolon ti Ku raised up Itzam Cab Ain; there was a great cataclysm, and the ages ended with a flood.<br />
(Source: <a href="http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publications/journal/701/flood_e.pdf" rel="nofollow" >http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publications/journal/701/flood_e.pdf</a> )</p></blockquote>
<h2><span style="color: #ff0000;">End of the World Beliefs Were Real</span></h2>
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<div id="_mcePaste">Comparative analysis of hieroglyphic texts, Precolumbian images and colonial alphabetical texts has made it possible to verify the diachronic and geographical persistence of a basic core of Maya beliefs, related to the destruction of a previous world by flooding, a cataclysm that allowed the construction of a new cosmological order. Beyond this, the myth of the great flooding and decapitation of the caiman, documented from the eighth century in Palenque until the eighteenth in the books of Chilam Balam, had important variations throughout these ten centuries. Most noticeable amongst them is probably the fact that in the Classic Maya version, the liquid being spilled by the caiman is blood, whereas in the Dresden Codex and the colonial sources that followed, the liquid can be identified as water. On the other hand, the eclipse that served as a preamble for the flooding does not seem to be present in the Palenque version, while the names of gods and entities that appear in all these accounts are also different.<br />
(Source: Erik Velásquez García  <a href="http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publications/journal/701/flood_e.pdf" rel="nofollow" >http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publications/journal/701/flood_e.pdf</a>)</div>
</blockquote>
<p>The Aztecs stated the current (and final) age would end due to an earthquake. They believed so strongly in a doomsday that they conducted  sacrificial rituals to postpone the end, including the removal of  beating hearts from their own people.</p>
<p>The durations of the Aztec ages roughly correlate to the Mayan Long Count calendar. It can be assumed that the Maya had catastrophic expectations for 2012, even though we have not found any explicit statements regarding this &#8211; there&#8217;s a strong possibility it was described amongst the thousands of books that were destroyed. The Maya certainly believe that their previous ages ended in disaster, and their current age ends on Dec 21, 2012. Mark Van Stone has no problem with using the previous cycle to presume what would happen in 2012:</p>
<blockquote><p>What happened at the last 13.0.0.0.0 Creation gives us a clue as to what was expected at the next one. (<a href="http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/2012Part2.pdf" rel="nofollow" >Source</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>The Aztec and Maya cultures both believed in a series of world ages that  ended due to natural disasters, brought on by the gods. Other North American cultures had similar beliefs, including the Hopi:</p>
<p>Hopi legend tells that the current earth is the Fourth World to be  inhabited by Tawa&#8217;s creations. The story essentially states that in each  previous world, the people, though originally happy, became disobedient  and lived contrary to Tawa&#8217;s plan; they engaged in sexual promiscuity,  fought one another and would not live in harmony&#8230; In some  stories, these former worlds were then destroyed along with their wicked  inhabitants&#8230; (Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopi_mythology" rel="nofollow" >Wikipedia</a>)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that this is the only place letting you know the truth about the origins of the 2012 Doomsday meme. Feel free to share this!</p>
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		<title>The Last Doomsday</title>
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It&#8217;s not a contradiction of terms &#8211; plenty of 2012 debunkers will let you know that every other doomsday prophecy was wrong. Well, it only takes one doomsday prophecy to be right &#8211; so how do we judge them?
Historically, regardless of how popular they became, doomsday prophecies tended to be based on the ideas of a religiously motivated individual. The most recent was Harold Camping. Aside from Y2K, all the major doomsday predictions that failed were:

Based on the Bible
Used dodgy logic, usually revolving around numbers or codes
Promoted by an individual

And Y2K was real, but we fixed it. And it wasn&#8217;t a prophecy, but rather reality.
The Mayan prophecy (and there is an implied prophecy, according to the Popol Vuh each previous &#8220;age&#8221; ended with the destruction of the human race) is not Biblical, doesn&#8217;t feel the need to offer any logic, and was embraced by an entire society. Nothing like anything ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2011/12/the-last-doomsday-2397.html">The Last Doomsday</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p>It&#8217;s not a contradiction of terms &#8211; plenty of 2012 debunkers will let you know that every other doomsday prophecy was wrong. Well, it only takes one doomsday prophecy to be right &#8211; so how do we judge them?</p>
<p>Historically, regardless of how popular they became, doomsday prophecies tended to be based on the ideas of a religiously motivated individual. The most recent was Harold Camping. Aside from Y2K, all the major doomsday predictions that failed were:</p>
<ul>
<li>Based on the Bible</li>
<li>Used dodgy logic, usually revolving around numbers or codes</li>
<li>Promoted by an individual</li>
</ul>
<p>And Y2K was real, but we fixed it. And it wasn&#8217;t a prophecy, but rather reality.</p>
<p>The Mayan prophecy (and there is an <em>implied </em>prophecy, according to the Popol Vuh each previous &#8220;age&#8221; ended with the destruction of the human race) is not Biblical, doesn&#8217;t feel the need to offer any logic, and was embraced by an entire society.<strong> Nothing like anything from the past. And nothing like anything from the future.</strong></p>
<p>Today <a href="http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/21/9592763-2012-watch-the-countdown-begins" rel="nofollow" >Alan Boyle at Cosmic Log</a> felt obliged to make a list of  future doomsdays that have been predicted. They are a motley bunch compared to the Long Count calendar:</p>
<ul>
<li>2014,  when the LHC is due to reach full power. Some folks believe the second  decade of any century is a rough time, just because it historically has  been. Nicholas Boyle, a professor specializing in German literature and  history at Cambridge University (and no close relative of mine), has already written a book on that theme titled &#8220;2014: How to Survive the Next World Crisis.&#8221; Not sure what that has to do with German, but OK. <em>So, not really worthy of mentioning then&#8230;</em></li>
<li>2029, futurist Ray Kurzweil expects machine intelligence will equal human intelligence. <em>Not a doomsday!</em></li>
<li>2045, Kurzweil foresees a global transformation dramatic enough to be classified as a &#8220;singularity.&#8221; <em>McKenna predicted the same for 2012</em>.</li>
<li>2060, the &#8221;no-earlier-than&#8221; date for Isaac Newton&#8217;s predicted doomsday. <em>Not many people know this, but Newton spent more time trying to predict the Biblical end of days than anything else</em>.</li>
</ul>
<p>I had a chuckle at this quote from an expert:</p>
<blockquote><p>But Rosanna Guadagno, a social psychologist at the University of  Alabama, worries that websites and apocalyptic chatter on the Internet  could create a &#8220;tipping point&#8221; for 2012 hysteria. &#8220;I think it&#8217;s going to ramp up as we get closer to next December,&#8221; she told me.</p></blockquote>
<p>As we say in Australia: <em>No Shit Sherlock!</em></p>
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		<title>Sven Gronemeyer: No Doomsday</title>
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Gronemeyer has been studying the stone tablet found years ago at the  archeological site of Tortuguero in Mexico&#8217;s Gulf coast state of  Tabasco.
He said the inscription describes the return of mysterious Mayan god  Bolon Yokte at the end of a 13th period of 400 years, known as Baktuns,  on the equivalent of Dec. 21, 2012. Mayans considered 13 a sacred  number. There&#8217;s nothing apocalyptic in the date, he said.
The text was carved about 1,300 years ago. The stone has cracked, which has made the end of the passage almost illegible.
Gronemeyer said the inscription refers to the end of a cycle of 5,125  years since the beginning of the Mayan Long Count calendar in 3113 B.C.
The above is well-known. What would have caught the attention of readers was the title of the Telegraph article &#8211; The end of the world not happening &#8211; for now ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2011/12/sven-gronemeyer-2286.html">Sven Gronemeyer: No Doomsday</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<blockquote><p>Gronemeyer has been studying the stone tablet found years ago at the  archeological site of Tortuguero in Mexico&#8217;s Gulf coast state of  Tabasco.</p>
<p>He said the inscription describes the return of mysterious Mayan god  Bolon Yokte at the end of a 13th period of 400 years, known as Baktuns,  on the equivalent of Dec. 21, 2012. Mayans considered 13 a sacred  number. There&#8217;s nothing apocalyptic in the date, he said.</p>
<p>The text was carved about 1,300 years ago. The stone has cracked, which has made the end of the passage almost illegible.</p>
<p>Gronemeyer said the inscription refers to the end of a cycle of 5,125  years since the beginning of the Mayan Long Count calendar in 3113 B.C.</p></blockquote>
<p>The above is well-known. What would have caught the attention of readers was the title of the <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8929275/The-end-of-the-world-not-happening-for-now-says-expert.html" rel="nofollow" >Telegraph article</a> &#8211; <strong><em>The end of the world not happening &#8211; for now says expert</em></strong>. Presumably the article would contain information to put our minds at ease&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The  date acquired a symbolic value because it is seen as a reflection of     the day of creation,&#8221; Gronemeyer said. &#8220;It is the passage of a god     and not necessarily a great leap for humanity.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Every time the Long Count calendar restarts, it is certainly the anniversary of the day of creation. The <em>last </em>day  of creation, for the Maya believed there have been several. And the day  before that will likewise be the anniversary of the last time the Mayan  world ended, 5125 years ago. And each previous time their world ended,  it was via a natural disaster, instigated by the gods. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Every debunking scholar skips that part.</span></p>
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		<title>Dec 21, 2012: Second Mayan Reference</title>
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Mayan experts keen to debunk 2012 doomsday theories used to point out how strange it was that the Mayans never mentioned the specific date of (their equivalent to) Dec 21, 2012, not anywhere. The only way we knew of it is by determining when their Long Count would finish, and start again. Then a few years ago some scholars let us in on a secret, the date is inscribed upon Tortuguero Monument 6:
…(long ago) it happened, the day Eight Chuwen, the ninth of Mak
when the Becoming-Ripe-House was constructed(?).
It was the ‘underground house’ (shrine) of (the god) Ahkal K’uk’.
It was two and nine-score days, three years, eight-score years and 3 x 400 years
(before) the Thirteenth Bak’tun will end
on Four Ajaw, the third of Uniiw,
when ..?.. it will occur,
the descent..?.. of B’olon Yookte’ at ..?..
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<p>Mayan experts keen to debunk 2012 doomsday theories used to point out how strange it was that the Mayans never mentioned the specific date of (their equivalent to) Dec 21, 2012, not anywhere. The only way <em>we </em>knew of it is by determining when their Long Count would finish, and start again. Then a few years ago some scholars let us in on a secret, the date is inscribed upon <a href="http://survive2012.com/index.php/Common-Questions/did-the-ancient-mayans-predict-a-doomsday.html" rel="nofollow" >Tortuguero Monument 6</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>…(long ago) it happened, the day Eight Chuwen, the ninth of Mak<br />
when the Becoming-Ripe-House was constructed(?).<br />
It was the ‘underground house’ (shrine) of (the god) Ahkal K’uk’.<br />
It was two and nine-score days, three years, eight-score years and 3 x 400 years<br />
(before) the Thirteenth Bak’tun will end<br />
on Four Ajaw, the third of Uniiw,<br />
when ..?.. it will occur,<br />
the descent..?.. of B’olon Yookte’ at ..?..</p></blockquote>
<p>Given that there was just one mention, experts assured us that Dec 21 2012 was not an important date for the Mayans.</p>
<p>But what about two mentions? Making the news this week, the National Institute of Anthropology and History have let it be known that <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/story/2011-11-24/mexico-apocalypse-2012-mayans/51387348/1" rel="nofollow" >a second reference exists</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The inscription is on the carved or molded face  of a brick. Comalcalco is unusual among Mayan temples in that it was  constructed of bricks.</p>
<p>Arturo Mendez, a  spokesman for the institute, said the fragment of inscription had been  discovered years ago and has been subject to thorough study. It is not  on display and is being kept in storage at the institute.</p>
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<p>Which begs the question, how many more are there, kept secret?</p>
<blockquote><p>The brick date does coincide with the end of the 13th Baktun; Baktuns  were roughly 394-year periods and 13 was a significant, sacred number  for the Mayas. The Mayan Long Count calendar begins in 3114 B.C., and  the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.</p></blockquote>
<p>The brick does not mention the Long Count date, so it could be a coincidence &#8211; these Calendar Round dates repeat every 52 years.</p>
<p>Aside from the date, the brick doesn&#8217;t say much, just <strong><em>he/she/it arrives</em>.</strong> That leaves open the possibility of the return of a comet.</p>
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		<title>Skeptic Avoids Long Count Calendar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 03:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bast</dc:creator>
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You can really sense the fear when experts and authority figures use spin rather than logic to discredit something.
Today&#8217;s  press release from the University of Kansas, regarding the work of  anthropologist and Maya scholar John Hoopes, is all about debunking  11/11/11 and 2012.

The next big date to consider is  11/11/11, when many in the New Age  movement plan celebrations to  receive emerging energies in preparation  for a transformation of  consciousness on Dec. 21, 2012.
Whether these dates mark a time  for transformation of  consciousness or a catastrophic end, they are  part of a 2012  eschatological myth that originated with Christopher  Columbus and  Franciscan missionaries, not the ancient Maya calendar, Hoopes  emphasizes.
I presume Hoopes is suggesting that in the 1500s the concept of a  religious doomsday was popular, and he believes that is the main  ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2011/11/skeptic-hoopes-2118.html">Skeptic Avoids Long Count Calendar</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p>You can really sense the fear when experts and authority figures use spin rather than logic to discredit something.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s  <a href="http://www.news.ku.edu/2011/november/3/hoopes.shtml" rel="nofollow" >press release</a> from the University of Kansas, regarding the work of  anthropologist and Maya scholar John Hoopes, is all about debunking  11/11/11 and 2012.</p>
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<p>The next big date to consider is  11/11/11, when many in the New Age  movement plan celebrations to  receive emerging energies in preparation  for a transformation of  consciousness on Dec. 21, 2012.</p>
<p>Whether these dates mark a time  for transformation of  consciousness or a catastrophic end, they are  part of a 2012  eschatological myth that originated with Christopher  Columbus and  Franciscan missionaries, <em>not the ancient Maya calendar</em>, Hoopes  emphasizes.</p></blockquote>
<p>I <em>presume </em>Hoopes is suggesting that in the 1500s the concept of a  religious doomsday was popular, and he believes that is the main  source for such beliefs today.</p>
<p>While  plenty of New Agers have co-opted 2012 into their own ideas regarding  aliens / light workers / dimensions / vibrations and of course the  teaching of elders in far off lands&#8230; all these things would have been popular today with or without 2012.</p>
<p><em>Not the ancient Maya calendar</em>,  says Hoopes. Well, without the end date of the Long Count  calendar, we wouldn&#8217;t have a doomsday date. And Dec 21 2012 was only  determined in modern times.</p>
<blockquote><p>To validate his  convictions, Columbus wrote his own Book of Prophecies  that included an  account of his interview with a “Maia” leader in 1502.  The reference  inspired early speculation by explorers and missionaries,  indirectly  influencing crackpots as well as scholars to link ancient  Maya — before  any contact with Europeans — with the astrological and  religious  beliefs popular in Europe in the 1500s.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s just  part and parcel of the co-opting that occurs in all sorts of circles.  The most famous works of mysticism and paganism have all stolen from  ancient and foreign cultures, just as New Agers today love to align  themselves with Atlantis, druids and ancient Egypt.</p>
<p>Lawrence E  Joseph, Patrick Geryl and myself have come to our own understandings  about our fate in 2012. We have each looked into ancient history and  modern science, and I think it is safe to say that ponderings of  Columbus weren&#8217;t of any influence. Other doom &#8216;n&#8217; gloom 2012ers who  focus on things like LHC, earth changes and Nibiru, likewise do not cite  Columbus, or any misinterpretations of Mayan culture in the 1500s.</p>
<p>Some  New Agers may have been influenced as Hoopes charges, but they aren&#8217;t  expecting Armageddon. They have chosen to counter Armageddon with  concepts transformation and happiness. If you really want to debunk  2012, you need to provide an alternate explanation for the Mayans using  Dec 21 2012 as their end date, and you need to negate the very real possibilities of the Sun, or a comet, harming us.</p>
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		<title>David Wilcock: The Source Field Investigations</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bast</dc:creator>
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It&#8217;s quite common for 2012ish researchers to present information from disparate directions, without being convincing as to why each element connects to the other. David Wilcock is a great example. His video that preludes his book, The Source Field Investigations: The Hidden Science and Lost Civilizations Behind the 2012 Prophecies (released in a fortnight), covers many different angles:

Hypnosis
Astral Bodies
Coincident Inventions
Pineal Gland (I love the Vatican connection&#8230;)
Elongated Skulls
Climate Change throughout the Solar System
Rapid DNA Change
The US Dollar Bill

While he segues well between each topic, it is never very clear why the powers-that-be did such things, and there&#8217;s a general lack of cohesion.
BUT, David does tend to present information that is not well-known, such as this gob-smacker:

Click here for a closer look, where you will see the Aztec Sun Stone, which is essentially the Mayan Long Count calendar. This is part of the frieze within the Capitol building in Washington D.C., created ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2011/08/david-wilcock-1863.html">David Wilcock: The Source Field Investigations</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p>It&#8217;s quite common for 2012ish researchers to present information from disparate directions, without being convincing as to why each element connects to the other. David Wilcock is a great example. His video that preludes his book, <em>The Source Field Investigations: The Hidden Science and Lost Civilizations Behind the 2012 Prophecies</em> (released in a fortnight), covers many different angles:</p>
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<li>Hypnosis</li>
<li>Astral Bodies</li>
<li>Coincident Inventions</li>
<li>Pineal Gland (I love the Vatican connection&#8230;)</li>
<li>Elongated Skulls</li>
<li>Climate Change throughout the Solar System</li>
<li>Rapid DNA Change</li>
<li>The US Dollar Bill</li>
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<p>While he segues well between each topic, it is never very clear why the powers-that-be did such things, and there&#8217;s a general lack of cohesion.</p>
<p>BUT, David does tend to present information that is not well-known, such as this gob-smacker:</p>
<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2011/08/david-wilcock-1863.html/capitol"rel="attachment wp-att-1864" ><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1864" title="capitol" src="http://survive2012.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/capitol.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="112" /></a></p>
<p>Click <a href="http://survive2012.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/capitol.jpg">here</a> for a closer look, where you will see the Aztec Sun Stone, which is essentially the Mayan Long Count calendar. This is part of the <a href="http://www.aoc.gov/cc/art/rotunda/frieze/Cortez-and-Montezuma.cfm" rel="nofollow" >frieze</a> within the Capitol building in Washington D.C., created well over 100 years ago.</p>
<p>Watch the video, and consider buying the book:</p>
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		<title>Geoff Stray: 13-Baktun vs 20-Baktun</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bast</dc:creator>
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There are more than a few 2012 experts out there who will tell you that the end of the Long Count calendar is actually in 4772 AD and there is nothing to worry about meanwhile. This is based on a handful of inscriptions that show dates beyond the end of the 13th baktun. Geoff Stray has just published a paper that I presume is the most comprehensive discussion on the merits of the two points of view &#8211; and it concludes that 2012 is the end of the Long Count. He also hints that the 20 baktun concept has new age bias. According to Geoff:
This essay re-states the arguments that were built over 50 years, culminating in the realisation circa 1950, that it is not an either/or situation, but that the Maya had a 13-baktun era for historic dates within the current era, (with 5 numeric places) and a 20-baktun ...<p><a href="http://survive2012.com/news/2011/06/20-baktun-875.html">Geoff Stray: 13-Baktun vs 20-Baktun</a> is a post from: <a href="http://survive2012.com/news">2012 Blog</a></p>
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<p>There are more than a few 2012 experts out there who will tell you that the end of the Long Count calendar is actually in 4772 AD and there is nothing to worry about meanwhile. This is based on a handful of inscriptions that show dates beyond the end of the 13th baktun. Geoff Stray has just published a paper that I presume is the most comprehensive discussion on the merits of the two points of view &#8211; and it concludes that 2012 is the end of the Long Count. He also hints that the 20 baktun concept has new age bias. According to Geoff:</p>
<blockquote><p>This essay re-states the arguments that were built over 50 years, culminating in the realisation circa 1950, that it is not an either/or situation, but that the Maya had a 13-baktun era for historic dates within the current era, (with 5 numeric places) and a 20-baktun pictun for dating mythological events in deep time &#8211; 6 or more numeric places.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/13baktunversus20.pdf" rel="nofollow" >Read the paper here</a>, or just take Geoff&#8217;s word for it. He gets my vote as the most level-headed, intelligent and non-biased 2012 research there is, and he really, really knows his stuff.</p>
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Convert modern time (on your iPhone) into ancient Mayan time, with full descriptions of what this really means&#8230; It is called 1320Sync
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<p>Convert modern time (on your iPhone) into ancient Mayan time, with full descriptions of what this really means&#8230; It is called <a href="http://www.1320sync.com/" rel="nofollow" >1320Sync</a></p>
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