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2012 Forum Members on TV

November 28th, 2009 by Rob | 3 Comments | Filed in Uncategorized

As part of the celebration surrounding the release of the blockbuster 2012 movie, several members of the 2012 Forum have appeared on TV. I was on a Nat Geo documentary, and excerpted on Entertainment Tonight.

Steve Pace was interviewed by CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/11/16/wynter.doomsday.followers.cnn

And our own resident Charlie Frost, known as


http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2009/11/11/moos.world.wont.end.cnn

2012 Movie: Geryl, Suicide & the Chinese

November 27th, 2009 by Rob | 4 Comments | Filed in drakensberg, geryl, suicide
Most major newspapers had an article on the new 2012 movie when it opened recently. The Spectator ends their review with something I found amusing & strangely prophetic:
When the remnant of humanity — and a Noah’s ark sampling of animals — has to be herded into movie’s own, apocalypse-proof arks, it’s Chinese engineering, not American, that proves equal to the task. “Leave it to the Chinese,” says somebody. “I didn’t think we could do it in the time available.” That sounds to me like a self-fulfilling prophecy. For a start, all our best technical talent has given up working on military hardware and is now concentrating on computer-generated imagery.

Suicide
More serious now, the idea of 2012-related suicide. Tens of millions of people will enjoy the movie for what it is – popcorn entertainment. A few will unfortunately consider it to be an accurate adepiction of an event that will certainly occur, and decide that it will be all too terrible to deal with. Or they’re already suicidal and the 2012 movie is the tip of the iceberg. Either way, it is almost guaranteed that, sadly, some people will take their lives due to seeing the blockbuster film.
“Two years ago, I got a question a week about it,” said NASA scientist David Morrison, who hosts a website called Ask an Astrobiologist. “Now I’m getting a dozen a day. Two teenagers said they didn’t want to see the end of the world so they were thinking of ending their lives.”
At 2012 Forum a Spanish member recently related how a close friend attempted suicide after watching the 2012 movie:
He saw no way out and now way of saving himself. He decided after he went to the movie why wait to feel the pain or stand in line at the pearly gates when there will be alot of people dieing. … He was in a coma for 3 days and now recovering very well and a group of us has talked to him. He made some points tho.. he said why would you want to try to survive if it will be a nuclear Holocaust.

Geryl
In a plot summary, where Wikipedia describes the end of the 2012 movie, it accurately says:
When the floodwater from the worldwide tsunamis eventually recedes, satellite data shows that Africa rose in relation to sea level, and its Drakensberg mountains are now the highest on the planet.

In my opinion, the plot of 2012 owes a lot to the ideas of Belgian author Patrick Geryl. Not only did he originally advocate the Drakensberg mountains as the best place to survive, he is adamant that a sun-driven pole shift in 2012 will create a tsunami beyond imagination (although his suggestion of a 2km high tsunami is substantially short of Mt Everest…), and that the best way to survive is an indestructible yacht. For more on these ideas, check out his book How To Survive 2012 (no relation to my site, aside from the same desire to survive).
Others agree. Bruce Fenton over at 2012 Rising says:
The most vocal modern researcher of the theory is Patrick Geryl who insists that the Maya and Egyptians new of this phenomenon and predicted it for 21-12-2012. Actually an enormous chunk of the 2012 movie seems to be lifted from his work. For those not familiar with him he states that the safest place on Earth will be the Drakensburg Mountains of South Africa. It is no coincidence then that the closing scenes of the film have the survivors on course for that precise location!

At 2012 Pro, a blog with close connections to Geryl, they say:
What astonished me the most is that the storyline throughout the movie and in very much detail, aligns entirely with the books from Patrick Geryl. Especially The Orion Prophecy and the World Cataclysm in 2012, but also How To Survive 2012 are beyond any doubt the basis for the movie directed my Roland Emmerich. Latest news on this subject is that Geryl is filing a major lawsuit against the Movie Studio and the Director. I’ll certainly keep you posted as soon as news becomes available.

Unfortunately, you can’t copyright ideas. Hollywood can steal ideas from any non-fiction book they like.
While we are on this topic, I reckon the story for 2012 originated in this sequence:
- they heard of 2012 and thought “end of the world”, brilliant!
- they did a Google search
- they found Survive 2012, and the idea of a pole shift (not a stretch, there were few sites on this topic back then, and mine was pretty much the only one to mention a pole shift in 2012)
- they bought some books, including Geryl’s
Good on them.

Decline in Megafauna Pre-Dates Clovis, Extraterrestrial Impact

November 25th, 2009 by Rob | 2 Comments | Filed in Sporormiella, clovis

Twenty thousand years ago, North America had a more impressive array of big mammals than Africa does today; by 10,000 years ago, 34 genera of these mammals were gone, including the 10 species that weighed more than a ton.

A new study, published in Science, shows that the decline in Megafauna in North America pre-dates the Clovis culture, or the proposed extraterrestrial impact, by 1000 years. The evidence comes from fungal remains from dung:

Sporormiella is a fungus that produces spores in the dung of large herbivorous vertebrates. Lots of dung means lots of spores, so Sporormiella gives an index of the biomass of large herbivores.

Here’s the chart:

 Decline in Megafauna Pre Dates Clovis, Extraterrestrial Impact

As usual, I’ll now be critical. The study is based on a mere 13 samples – in my opinion not nearly enough to cover 13 genera across a continent – and 4 of those were rejected as being anomalous. By anomalous they decided they were either too old or too young to fit their hypothesis. This is an age-old problem – those that don’t fit are removed, and those that do are not as heavily scrutinised.

Before accepting this study, I’d want to see long-term graphs that indicate a very stable incidence of Sporormiella. Rather than a graph that starts just a few thousand years earlier and even then looks unstable.

I don’t know how they made the above graph from 9 samples, but although the eventual decline is obvious, I’m unsure that it shows the start of the decline as 14,800 years ago. The big drop at roughly 15,700 years ago is not mentioned and is almost as severe.

Finally, I don’t know what to make of this in the summary. After deciding that climate change and extraterrestrial impact were not the cause, the authors state:

What about people? It has long been argued that Clovis artifacts signal the first arrival of people in North America south of the boreal ice sheets and that the Clovis people were specialized big-mammal hunters who caused a crash of megafaunal populations from prehuman abundance to extinction within a few hundred years. This “blitzkrieg” scenario is supported by the fact that terminal dates on megafaunal fossils range from 13,300 to 12,900 years ago, which coincides almost exactly with the Clovis period. But the new data show that the megafaunal decline had begun more than a thousand years earlier. If people were responsible for that decline, they must have been pre-Clovis settlers. The existence of such people has been controversial, but archaeological evidence is slowly coming to light and is consistent with their arrival around the beginning of the megafaunal decline. It is beginning to look as if the greater part of that decline was driven by hunters who were neither numerous nor highly specialized for big-game hunting.

There were not enough hunters, nor did they have the skills, but it was them. Not very convincing!

Mini Ice Age Happened Rapidly

November 19th, 2009 by Rob | No Comments | Filed in younrer dryas

Just like the movie helmed by 2012 director, The Day After Tomorrow, our planet’s climate is capable of rapid change, according to scientists from the University of Saskatchewan.

Around 12,800 years ago the northern hemisphere was hit by the Younger Dryas mini ice age, or “Big Freeze”…and lasted around 1300 years.

Until now, it was thought that the mini ice age took a decade or so to take hold, on the evidence provided by Greenland ice cores.

…The group studied a mud core from an ancient lake, Lough Monreagh, in western Ireland. Using a scalpel they sliced off layers 0.5 to 1 millimetre thick, each representing up to three months of time. No other measurements from the period have approached this level of detail.

…They show that at the start of the Big Freeze, temperatures plummeted and lake productivity stopped within months, or a year at most. “It would be like taking Ireland today and moving it up to Svalbard” in the Arctic, says Patterson.

The drop in temperatures averaged 5 degrees globally, but as much as 15 degrees in Greenland. The date of the mini ice age, and the rapid onset, suggest a global cataclysm caused by a pole shift or asteroid/comet. Numerous books have been recently hypothesising either scenario, and this new evidence makes their ideas even more compelling.

Patrick Geryl Discovers Labyrinth in Egypt

November 13th, 2009 by Rob | 5 Comments | Filed in collins, geryl

With financial support from Louis De Cordier, 2012 author Patrick Geryl has used ground-penetrating radar to provide evidence for the legendary “labyrinth” and possible home of the Hall of Records to be located in Hawara, Egypt. Zahi Hawass is now involved and excavations have begun.

The situation is starting to look a little embrassing for Egyptian authorities, given that English author Andrew Collins is publicizing a relatively undiscovered series of tunnels and chambers below the Giza plateau, which he just found from taking an educated wander.

Could independent researchers be close to discovering some remarkably secret places?

Apocalyptic Entertainment Cranks Up A Notch

November 11th, 2009 by Rob | 8 Comments | Filed in Uncategorized

Here’s some evidence that whichever way you work it, Hollywood is giving us what we are into, or writers are feeling the vibe, the “end of the world” is really, deeply, seriously in vogue:

Len Wiseman (Underworld, Die Hard 4.0), has in development – “Nocturne” which centers on a handful of survivors following a wide-scale apocalyptic event and how each of them arrived at their current dilemma.

2013 TV Series - Roland Emmerich (producer of the current 2012 movie) is involved in a tv show that will focus on the survivors of a 2012 doomsday, and he suggests it will appeal to the same niche audience as Lost.

A documentary series is in development for the History Channel, with a title of Seekers 2012. A reality show, it will be very much based on the X Files concept:

Ideal Investigators would already be a team (husband and wife, co-workers) who fall somewhere between the FBI Agents on “The X Files” and “Indiana Jones”. One is a believer, the other a skeptic. One is driven by reason, science and empirical evidence, the other by feelings, intuitions and faith.

Ideally, the woman would be the skeptic and the man the believer.

Opinions I have read suggest that there will be significantly more applicants for the “Mulder” role.

Cormac McCarthy’s The Road is now a movie, and the story starts like this:

The world is in ruins after an apocalyptic event that is never described. A father and his son are walking south in an attempt to escape the increasingly cold, endless winter. Along the way they have to avoid gangs of lawless killers. Their only weapon is a pistol with 2 bullets.

And that’s just a sample…

Rob on Nat Geo – Sneak Peek

November 6th, 2009 by Rob | 12 Comments | Filed in Pole Shift, national geographic

ends r2c2m1 Rob on Nat Geo   Sneak Peek

I recently had the pleasure of being interviewed for a documentary regarding a pole shift in 2012. The title is a little misleading, 2012 – Countdown to Armageddon, but hopefully will encourage many people to listen to the science behind the pole shift scenario. I’m in the preview below, if you want to check out my accent and our fireplace.

The documentary screens on National Geographic channel this Sunday at 8pm, USA only at this stage.